View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You are being preposterous. No, everyone did not, necessarily, agree that a background check was reasonable. Everyone has been too busy trying to get you to admit that you've been told repeatedly how long a background check takes, and to stop being deliberately disingenuous for your own amusement.

    You're obviously not going to argue honestly, so bye now.

    Look...if you are saying I'm taking my ball & going home....fine...& have a nice night.

    If you are changing your mind about background checks being OK...then let's be honest & say so.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If it weren't for private firearms we wouldn't have America, so how's that for a "benefit to society"
    With lots and lots of help from the French, Spanish, and Dutch...

    you know, those "socialist" countries with nationalized healthcare that's better and cheaper than our system.

    ...maybe they can again help us, this time in a battle over corporate tyranny?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    I'm going to end now because some of you guys have moved the goal posts & now don't want to play anymore.
    If anyone cares to discuss this seriously again, I'll be around.

    I'll stick with my original opinion:

    1. Background checks are reasonable to weed out felons & pedophile.
    2. 1 week is a reasonable amount of time to have to wait for this background check to be performed.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-25-09 at 06:58 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I really don't understand what the time limit problem is. If you all say 20 minutes....FINE.

    Or......

    Is the real problem that some of you really don't feel any background check is reasonable & therefore won't commit yourselves to putting a time limit on it?
    ARGGGGG!!!!!

    Now:

    According to several posters in this thread, a background check takes between 20-60 minutes to complete. If they are correct, then it is a fact. Not debatable.

    Thus, one must conclude that a reasonable amount of time for a background check is the amount of time it takes to complete said background check.

    Simple.

    If you cannot understand this, you are either intentionally pretending to be extremely obtuse, or are currently under an altered state of mind for one reason or another. Or you are actually quite stupid. Previous discussions indicate that you are not stupid. So the first two possibilities are most likely.

    As to opinion on the question of “Should there be a background check requirement or not”, I do not know their answers.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    ARGGGGG!!!!!

    Now:

    According to several posters in this thread, a background check takes between 20-60 minutes to complete. If they are correct, then it is a fact. Not debatable.

    Thus, one must conclude that a reasonable amount of time for a background check is the amount of time it takes to complete said background check.

    Simple.

    If you cannot understand this, you are either intentionally pretending to be extremely obtuse, or are currently under an altered state of mind for one reason or another. Or you are actually quite stupid. Previous discussions indicate that you are not stupid. So the first two possibilities are most likely.

    As to opinion on the question of “Should there be a background check requirement or not”, I do not know their answers.
    I understand & even will say I accept the 20-60 minute background check as reasonable.

    I think the real problem we are running into here is not the amnount of time but this:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As to opinion on the question of “Should there be a background check requirement or not”, I do not know their answers.
    What is YOUR answer to that question?
    & do you think I'm right or wrong about that being the real problem with the others?
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-25-09 at 07:07 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    What is YOUR answer to that question?
    & do you think I'm right or wrong about that being the real problem with the others?
    I think, if a background check only takes 20-60 mins, than it is at least somewhat reasonable. I haven't really thought about it.

    As to your second question, I cannot read minds, and have no idea.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    I am against background checks. The government has no business imposing preconditions to rights.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am against background checks. The government has no business imposing preconditions to rights.
    Ah.......At least we finally get an honest statement!

    (& no personal attack deemed necessary)
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-25-09 at 08:29 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am against background checks. The government has no business imposing preconditions to rights.
    And how will you feel when...a school full of children is massacred by some institutionally insane man, because he could get a gun anywhere, anytime???
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    With lots and lots of help from the French, Spanish, and Dutch...
    Actually, we didn't get all that much help from the French and no help from the Spanish, or Dutch, but believe whatever revisionist history you want.


    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    And how will you feel when...a school full of children is massacred by some institutionally insane man, because he could get a gun anywhere, anytime???

    That guy isn't going to go legally purchase a brand spanking new gun for that, for one. For two, if he has a clean record and he goes to purchase a brand spanking new gun for that purpose, the background check screwed the pooch. Yes?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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