View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

Voters
95. You may not vote on this poll
  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 3 of 69 FirstFirst 123451353 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 681

Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

  1. #21
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So it would be ok in your book if, on New Years Eve (let's say) some people wandered around (drunk) in Times Square with loaded flame throwers strapped to their backs? (serious answer please)
    People wandering drunkenly in Times Square should be arrested for public intoxication and disorderly conduct whether they're armed or not. The flamethrowers would not aggravate the offense, as they are only hazardous if someone else is shooting at them or they have the pilots lit-- in which case they are brandishing weapons in public and should be prosecuted for that as well.

  2. #22
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not see it that way. It's not going to be a case where we are going to convince the other, so arguing about it is probably not worth the effort.
    Probably not. But a "permit" is a form of permission, if you have to ask permission then it's not a right but a privilege.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  3. #23
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not see it that way. It's not going to be a case where we are going to convince the other, so arguing about it is probably not worth the effort.
    I do not consider registration of firearms an infringement on rights, either. Requiring a permit, on the other hand, means that the government must give permission for someone to be armed-- which is very much an infringement of their right.

    The only reason I oppose registration is that all of the people proposing it are people who have made no secret of their desire for prohibition and confiscation-- and thus I have good cause for concern that any such registry is going to be used for that purpose later.

  4. #24
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I do not consider registration of firearms an infringement on rights, either.
    The registration I don't like because it's government databasing and it's none of the government's business as to whether or not I exercise my rights. So I don't think they need to be keeping a list on me as to whether or not and which rights I am exercising.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  5. #25
    Liberal Fascist For Life!


    Redress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:44 PM
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    93,348
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    How did permits get into this? I did not mention them. I mentioned wait periods and registration and fully automatic weapons.

  6. #26
    Baby Eating Monster
    Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Laramie, WY
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 02:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    18,709
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How did permits get into this? I did not mention them. I mentioned wait periods and registration and fully automatic weapons.
    Objection withdrawn, then. I'll not try to convince you that wait periods and prohibitions against fully automatics are infringements since, as you note, neither of us is likely to budge.

  7. #27
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,075

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I voted yes, but only reasonable regulations. People must remember that the were no such things as flame throwers (though I do not see the harm in a person owning one), nuclear weapons and other modern technology.
    So by that logic the government should severely limit internet access since there was no internet back then, there were no porn magazines and television or radio back then either
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  8. #28
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,075

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    "Shall not be infringed" == no.
    That part always seems to elude people. I bet the same people who think the 2nd amendment should be restricted would be the same ones screaming bloody murder if the government banned anti-war protest and flag burning.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  9. #29
    Guru
    tlmorg02's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Louisville, Ky
    Last Seen
    07-23-15 @ 11:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    3,347

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So by that logic the government should severely limit internet access since there was no internet back then, there were no porn magazines and television or radio back then either
    They do regulate it.

  10. #30
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How did permits get into this? I did not mention them. I mentioned wait periods and registration and fully automatic weapons.
    I expanded into it as I put registrations and permits into the same category, i.e. places were government doesn't belong. Sorry. But I view anything which hampers ones ability to have and carry a gun at their leisure to be an infringement against the right to keep and bear arms. I don't think you need permits for open and concealed carry as I view both of those as automatic exercises of a right. I have the right to keep and bear arms, of course I can conceal or open carry where ever I want (barring private property where it is explicitly posted as no gun zone). I don't need permits. And the government does not need to keep a list of me and what and how many guns I own. None of their damned business, my right so they can keep their noses out of it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

Page 3 of 69 FirstFirst 123451353 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •