View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I was a DEA Special Agent & graduated from Basic Agent class # 4 in May, 1974. If the Debate Politics administration wants verification of this they can contact me & I would be happy to provide proof & or DP can contact DEA itself Drug Enforcement Administration Home. ( I will be happy to contact DEA & authorize release of my info to DP Forum admin) If you want proof, go through the DP forum admin...End of discussion.
    The first (BA-1) was in November of 1973. They were running 3 classes of 53 students every 10 weeks. So to be in (BA-4) according to your statement is possible and does sound credible.

    They were indeed also "special agents."

    Anyone can get this information here...

    DEA History Book, 1970 - 1975

    I don't think he would have made this up, and it jives with the web site 100%.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The first (BA-1) was in November of 1973. They were running 3 classes of 53 students every 10 weeks. So to be in (BA-4) according to your statement is possible and does sound credible.

    They were indeed also "special agents."

    Anyone can get this information here...

    DEA History Book, 1970 - 1975

    I don't think he would have made this up, and it jives with the web site 100%.
    Thanks, I'd say that pretty much settles that.

    I think I owe a certain Devil an apology.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Thanks, I'd say that pretty much settles that.

    I think I owe a certain Devil an apology.
    Don't feel bad, so do I, for the not being an LEO anyway.

    I officially apologies to Devil for doubting his being an LEO.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 08-24-09 at 08:42 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If a Mod/Admin I trust wants to check my bonafides, I'm fine with that. Otherhandwise, I'm not giving out personal info on DP's forums, since I still live in the same county I LEO'ed in. Given how hysterical some posters get on here, I don't care to be that easily located.
    Then you & I are in complete agreement. Any DP Mod/Admin I'll be happy to show them whatever they need to prove my bonafides. Just PM me.

    Beyond that, anyone here can believe what they choose.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Don't feel bad, so do I, for the not being an LEO anyway.

    I officially apologies to Devil for doubting his being an LEO.
    I accept your apology & have taken you off ignore.
    You & I will probably never agree on much but it does take integrity to admit when you are wrong & I thank you for that.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Good enough for me, thank you.


    I've been trying to account for the differences in our perceptions about certain things; criminals and criminality most especially.

    I suppose the fact that you were a Fed and I was County, you're liberal and I'm more-or-less conservative is probably explanation enough. Our experiences would have been very different I expect.


    I have wondered about our different perspectives myself & meant to ask you what exactly was your LE job?
    While all my career was at the federal level, we worked quite closely with state & locals & even had them detailed to our office (for months at a time) in what we called "Task Forces."

    Without giving away any trade secrets, we (DEA) needed that state & locals since they had most of the informants (CI's) & they needed us because we had the money/cash to make large buys & for "Flash Rolls."

    Locals would get the ball rolling & then we would usually take over moving up the food chain.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    . People who own guns and use guns don't normally support laws that will deprive them of their guns.
    I missed this earlier & would disagree with what I think you're saying.

    Most LEO's (that I know) favor reasonable gun laws & want fewer guns on the street. We are the ones that have to face these weapons every day & it's not a hypothetical, college debate discussion to us.......It's the difference between going home after work or going to a city morgue!

    Example:
    I don't know of any LEO who sees a legitimate purpose for full auto weapons in the hands of civilians. What societal benefit could they possibly serve vs the danger they represent to us all, in the wrong hands?
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-24-09 at 11:05 PM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I missed this earlier & would disagree with you here:

    Most LEO's (that I know) favor reasonable gun laws & want fewer guns on the street. We are the ones that have to face these weapons every day & it's not a hypothetical, college debate discussion to us.......It's the difference between going home after work or going to a city morgue!


    Most of the LEOs I knew were skeptical of gun control laws and generally did not favor them. Of course, we're talking about down South here.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post

    Example:
    I don't know of any LEO who sees a legitimate purpose for full auto weapons in the hands of civilians. What societal benefit could they possibly serve vs the danger they represent to us all, in the wrong hands?

    Well, now you know one who doesn't agree with that statement.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Most of the LEOs I knew were skeptical of gun control laws and generally did not favor them. Of course, we're talking about down South here.

    G.
    Well that explains it! (you obviously only knew the stupid...southern LEO's!!)

    (Just kidding!!)

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