View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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Thread: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post

    .I'd prefer to see every school have a few armed staff members who've had appropriate training, every aircraft have armed/trained pilots, every legitimate businessman who so desires have a Remington 870 behind the counter as an answer to robbery, etc.
    What you describe may be your preference but it is not realistic.
    This country cannot afford to protect every flight & a good percentage of pilots do not want the added responsibility of both flying the aircraft & acting as sky marshal. I'm quite sure that an even fewer number of school teachers/personnel would want to take on the vast added responsibility of being an armed guard either.(the bad guys never know which flights are unprotected just as they would not know which schools would be. That adds a measure of safety that is affordable)

    I have no problem with every law abiding citizn who wants to protect himself (& family) doing so but it is quite a different idea to act as a security force for a large group of children.
    In that case, I personally want only well trained Pros doing the job.

    Just a difference in opinion bewteeen us in how best to get the same job done safely.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    "Shall not be infringed" == no.
    "Well regulated" is a part of the second amendment.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Note that I'm not talking about SWAT teams, Felony Warrant Service crews, and similar specialists...
    I guess it's my turn to ask you a question:

    I am not familiar with the "Felony Warrant Service crews" that you mention in your above statement. The closest LE organization I can think of would be the U.S. Marshal Service who routinely do that kind of work. Is there such a thing as a "Felony Warrant Service "? (if so, who do they work for & are the real LEO's?)

    I've never heard of such a thing????
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I guess it's my turn to ask you a question:

    I am not familiar with the "Felony Warrant Service crews" that you mention in your above statement. The closest LE organization I can think of would be the U.S. Marshal Service who routinely do that kind of work. Is there such a thing as a "Felony Warrant Service "? (if so, who do they work for & are the real LEO's?)

    I've never heard of such a thing????
    We had a group, of sorts, like that at the county level; that's what I called them, but I don't think they actually had a formal name. Basically it was certain officers who were a bit tougher and rougher than most (mostly ex-mil), who handled most of the felony-warrant service calls where the perp was considered dangerous.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    "Well regulated" is a part of the second amendment.


    James Madison: "A WELL REGULATED militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the
    best and most natural defense of a free country." (1st Annals of Congress, at 434, June 8th 1789,
    emphasis added.

    IMPORTANT NOTE: Back in the 18th century, a "regular" army meant an army that had
    standard military equipment. So a "well regulated" army was simply one that was "well equipped." It
    does NOT refer to a professional army. The 17th century folks used the term "STANDING Army"
    to describe a professional army. THEREFORE, "a well regulated militia" only means a well equipped
    militia. It does not imply the modern meaning of "regulated," which means controlled or administered
    by some superior entity. Federal control over the militia comes from other parts of the Constitution,
    but not from the second amendment.

    Alexander Hamilton: "...that standing army can never be formidable (threatening) to the liberties
    of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in the use of arms."
    (Federalist Paper #29)

    "Little more can be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed
    and equipped." (Id) {responding to the claim that the militia itself could threaten liberty}" There is
    something so far-fetched, and so extravagant in the idea of danger of liberty from the militia that one
    is at a loss whether to treat it with gravity or raillery (mockery). (Id)

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We had a group, of sorts, like that at the county level; that's what I called them, but I don't think they actually had a formal name. Basically it was certain officers who were a bit tougher and rougher than most (mostly ex-mil), who handled most of the felony-warrant service calls where the perp was considered dangerous.
    Gotcha.

    (What threw me off was the capitalized letters you used, which usually denotes a formal organization of some sort. I've actually never heard of any police group that HASN'T annointed themselves with a formal name....& usually patches, T-shirts, Baseball caps & logos!)
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The costs would be excessive. The same goal could be accomplished by arming competent school officials.
    OK...There we have it! (I guess no further discussion is in order since you have THE answer)

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    The only restrictions that there should be are those to keep guns out of criminals hands, and anything that is classified by our Government.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The only restrictions that there should be are those to keep guns out of criminals hands, and anything that is classified by our Government.

    Which is the problem: most gun control does little or nothing to keep guns from criminals, but only restricts or inconveniences the law-abiding.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Which is the problem: most gun control does little or nothing to keep guns from criminals, but only restricts or inconveniences the law-abiding.
    True. But just because it does little to nothing does not mean that we shouldn't try at all.
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