View Poll Results: Are ANY government regulations of the 2nd Amendment acceptable?

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  • No. It's a Constitutional Right & no regulatioins are acceptable.

    39 41.05%
  • Yes. Reasonable regulations are acceptable.

    45 47.37%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry full auto weapons.

    22 23.16%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry flame throwers.

    11 11.58%
  • A law abiding citizen should have the right to own & carry tactical nukes.

    1 1.05%
  • gun restrictions are necessary to prevent unauthorized use by nuts.

    16 16.84%
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not real??

    Here are 3 incidences (2 involving cops having their gun taken away) that a 5 minute Google search found.
    FBI would have statistics but it is not rare at all.
    #1 no one is talking about police officers.
    #2 The FBI has no statistics on it because it is so rare.
    #3 Your last story is about the holdup man getting his gun taken away by the shop owner in a robbery attempt.

    Police: Man Shot With Own Gun During Attempted Robbery - Pittsburgh News Story - WTAE Pittsburgh
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    #1 no one is talking about police officers.
    #2 The FBI has no statistics on it because it is so rare.
    #3 Your last story is about the holdup man getting his gun taken away by the shop owner in a robbery attempt.
    1. If a cop can lose his gun, how much easier would it be to take one from a teacher?
    2. How do you know that?
    3. Oops! (I read it quickly...but the point is these things happen)

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    1. If a cop can lose his gun, how much easier would it be to take one from a teacher?
    A cop is put into dangerous situations with criminals on a daily basis. A teacher is not.

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    2. How do you know that?
    #1 Because I was an LEO.
    #2 The FBI has a web site with it's statistics listed: Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    3. Oops! (I read it quickly...but the point is these things happen)
    Go figure. They happen to the criminals. Thanks for your supporting evidence.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The idea that anyone can buy a gun, anytime is a sad, sad prospect. For example, if someone hates you, and is a in a mental institute, he can get a gun, shoot and kill you, and he'll just go back to the crazy place. That concept, that anyone, including crazies and convicts can buy guns is a horrid concept. That is what you people want when you say no regulation. You'll only care about that when a convict shoots up a bus of people with an M-16, and one of your family members is dead.


    Ok, so how do we keep said certifiably insane whacko from obtaining a knife, sword, poison, incendiary device, etc. and using it against their perceived/real enemy? Frankly, I'd rather be taken out quickly with a bullet to the head than be poked full of holes like swiss cheese. Better yet, I'd rather take said whack job out myself with a clean center mass shot than fight him in hopes of landing one lucky puncture wound. But that's just me. Imo, the only time someone's access to firearms should be restricted is if/when they pose an imminent danger to themselves or others, though I realize such cannot always be ascertained prior to the occurrence of a tragic event.
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    A cop is put into dangerous situations with criminals. A teacher is not.
    Check inner city teacher assaults & tell me many teachers are not in dangerous situations every day. Ad a gun in the mix & it's an RX for disaster,imo.



    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    #1 Because I was an LEO.
    So was I .

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    #2 The FBI has a web site with it's statistics listed: Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports Go figure.
    I know the FBI has plenty of stats they don't post on their web site.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post

    Ok, so how do we keep said certifiably insane whacko from obtaining a knife, sword, poison, incendiary device, etc. and using it against their perceived/real enemy? Frankly, I'd rather be taken out quickly with a bullet to the head than be poked full of holes like swiss cheese. Better yet, I'd rather take said whack job out myself with a clean center mass shot than fight him in hopes of landing one lucky puncture wound. But that's just me.
    This is the same silly argument the even NRA has given up on. How many kids do you think would have been killed at Columbine HS if the killers were armed with knives??

    If you are going to try to deny that firearms are more lethal to groups of innocent people than knives, swords, etc......You are going to lose that argument.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-21-09 at 08:10 AM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Check inner city teacher assaults & tell me many teachers are not in dangerous situations every day. Ad a gun in the mix & it's an RX for disaster,imo.
    Speculation at best.

    Please post some evidence that inner city school teachers are assaulted on a daily bases.

    Growing up on Chicago's South side, I know it is not a common occurrence, although more likely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So was I .
    I seriously doubt it considering the level of common sense you display.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I know the FBI has plenty of stats they don't post on their web site.
    You said:
    "FBI would have statistics but it is not rare at all. - Devil505

    Then I show they do have the stats available and you still got nothing.

    You have no credibility here. Why do you even bother?
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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Speculation at best.

    Please post some evidence that inner city school teachers are assaulted on a daily bases.
    I don't have time to Google it right now but anyone can easily do a net search. Are you really trying to deny that teachers are often assaulted in school? (my oldest daughter is a middle school teacher & she could tell you stories about the dangers faced by teachers all the time. .......& this is not an inner city school.





    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I seriously doubt it considering the level of common sense you display.
    Unnecessary personal attack. Believe what you want.



    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You said:
    "FBI would have statistics but it is not rare at all. - Devil505

    Then I show they do have the stats available and you still got nothing.

    You have no credibility here. Why do you even bother?
    I'm not going to be drawn of into the weeds here. If you are going to deny the potential danger of a barely trained (armed) teacher have her gun taken away by a student, then that is your opinion & it is just a silly one, imo.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-21-09 at 08:35 AM.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You have no credibility here. Why do you even bother?
    & why do you feel the need to make personal attacks to get your point across?
    To me, resorting to childish personal attacks is the surest sign that a debater KNOWS he/she has a weak argument.

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    Re: Should There Be Any Regulations To 2nd Amnendment Rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I don't have time to Google it right now but anyone can easily do a net search. Are you really trying to deny that teachers are often assaulted in school?
    Same old dance from you. Read what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Unnecessary personal attack. Believe what you want.
    I will, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'm not going to be drawn of into the weeds here. If you are going to deny the potential danger of a barely trained (armed) teacher have her gun taken away by a student, then that is your opinion & it is just a silly one, imo.
    Same old same old.

    I have no real opinion on it either way. This is not the first time you confuse posters, you do it often.

    Run and dodge. You think you are good at it but we can see you for what you are.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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