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Thread: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

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    A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    With a program for this, an entitlement for that, an allocation for the other thing I really have to throw this question out there, and I would like you folks (especially on the Left) to answer honestly.

    Does anyone really think that Governmenet, especially Big Government is the answer to America's problems?


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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    Hell no!

    Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave!
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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    My exact sentiments.

    Here is a quote that needs to be repeated ad infinitum:
    "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problems,government is the problem."-President Ronald Wilson Reagan


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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    I have a question for you: do you think overgeneralized jingoistic statements are the solution to Americans problem? There may be many instances where government intervention is the problem, but its not always the case.

    America's problems are best solved like any problem: you analyze what is wrong and come up with solution that best fits the specific situation. If you are more interested in satisfying your pre-existing beliefs than fixing the problem, you aren't going to do well.

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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I have a question for you: do you think overgeneralized jingoistic statements are the solution to Americans problem?
    No they are not. They do make perfect sense on an Internet message board though.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    There may be many instances where government intervention is the problem, but its not always the case.
    And your not really going to find the answer to that here. Although you can get allot of cool opinions and maybe learn something along the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    America's problems are best solved like any problem: you analyze what is wrong and come up with solution that best fits the specific situation.
    You could have stated that without all the uppityness. I think I just made up a new word?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    If you are more interested in satisfying your pre-existing beliefs than fixing the problem, you aren't going to do well.
    Unless he knows this is nothing but an Internet BBS for debating just that.
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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    With a program for this, an entitlement for that, an allocation for the other thing I really have to throw this question out there, and I would like you folks (especially on the Left) to answer honestly.

    Does anyone really think that Governmenet, especially Big Government is the answer to America's problems?
    The government certainly can be a solution for problems. This country would not have the infrastructure it has if not for the government. Hell, we would not be the greatest country in the world if the government was not alot more effective than people want to give it credit for.

    It's not a default "there is a problem, the government should fix it" situation, but the government should be part of what is looked at for any national problem. Cliches like the Reagan quote are just that, cliches, and not necessarily accurate.

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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The government certainly can be a solution for problems. This country would not have the infrastructure it has if not for the government. Hell, we would not be the greatest country in the world if the government was not alot more effective than people want to give it credit for.
    I do give it credit for it's past accomplishments, but it's recent history has been dismal. So I can't in good conscience trust it right now to do anything reasonable. It seems to be over correct/react or nothing with the last 3 administrations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It's not a default "there is a problem, the government should fix it" situation, but the government should be part of what is looked at for any national problem. Cliches like the Reagan quote are just that, cliches, and not necessarily accurate.
    Agreed.
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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I do give it credit for it's past accomplishments, but it's recent history has been dismal. So I can't in good conscience trust it right now to do anything reasonable. It seems to be over correct/react or nothing with the last 3 administrations.
    Really? I think you underestimate what all the government actually does. I would point to our infrastructure again as an example. I would point to the first gulf war. I would point to vast steps forward on gay marriage. I would point to Afghanistan, which is hard going, but we are at least doing better than the Soviets did there.

    I can go on, but I think you get the point.

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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    The government has legitimate functions. I'm OK with them sending Jimmy to school (though I'd prefer that the parents got to pick the school) or put a pilot into a fighter jet (although not a costly F-22), but the government has expanded far beyond the scope of reason. It takes about a third of the nation's GDP and half of our incomes, mostly to squander it on bridges to nowhere, entitlements that no one is actually entitled to, and pretending that it's my mother. The government should keep us from injuring each other and not much else.

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    Re: A Simple And Straightforward Question For You.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? I think you underestimate what all the government actually does.
    Considering I was a government representative as well as a civil servant I can honestly say you are wrong on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would point to our infrastructure again as an example. I would point to the first gulf war. I would point to vast steps forward on gay marriage. I would point to Afghanistan, which is hard going, but we are at least doing better than the Soviets did there.
    I would point out that most if not all of those you mentioned are either half ass or botched jobs from the start. In Afghanistan the only difference is we actually had support of some of the factions against an unpopular government. The Russians on the other hand just invaded.

    The government has done little with gay marriage. Lets see states changing constitutions to make it illegal? The victory of prop 8? No, I completely disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I can go on, but I think you get the point.
    So can I, but you get the point.
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