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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The reality is that It doesnt matter how many times you repeat this, it has been addressed: if you are so inclined to do so, you have every right to choose to help these people.
    It doesn't matter how many times you bring up charity either. It doesn't change the fact that people show up at emergency rooms without insurance, and the emergency rooms are legally obligated to give them life saving treatment. That is the reality you are unwilling to accept because it would result in, God Forbid, you for once in your life on here having to say, well yeah, that's true.

    And the right to be compensated for the goods and services you provide. Glad you agree.
    Yes, and they are compensated for treating the uninsured by passing those costs onto those with the ability to pay.

    These are not rights, these are privileges, granted by law.

    Rights are self-actuated actions you can take do not impose on the rights of others. As such, you do NOT have the right to expect others to provide you with the means to exercise your rights, such as health care providers to present goods/services w/o compensation.
    Well see that is the problem, the law disagrees with you there. The law states that if I am dropped in front of you bleeding to death, I have a right to your assistance if you have the ability to give it, and if you ignore that right, you can and will be prosecuted. Once again, that pesky thing called "reality" comes up. You know, if actually embraced just a small amount of pragmatism, reality would not be such a problem for you.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Satisfied with the usual complaint.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 08-19-09 at 05:44 PM.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Unsatisfied. I have to fight with BCBS way more than I should have to.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Yes, and they are compensated for treating the uninsured by passing those costs onto those with the ability to pay.
    which is crap.

    For people who are too poor to afford insurance and care I am willing to support social services for them. But for people who CAN afford health insurance but for one reason or another CHOOSE not to invest in their health, I have no remorse. They should be saddled with debt for years or not given full treatment. I have no remorse for people who knowingly make poor decisions at the expense of others.

    Well see that is the problem, the law disagrees with you there. The law states that if I am dropped in front of you bleeding to death, I have a right to your assistance if you have the ability to give it, and if you ignore that right, you can and will be prosecuted.
    This might be true for hospitals but not for individuals. In fact, because of the many legal problems opened up by negligence, the best thing to do for your own sake is to call 911 and nothing else. If you try to help someone and somehow hurt them or aggravate them, even unintentionally, you can be sued.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Goobie is the one that had the radically inconsistent views, nothing ideological about it.
    No. The ideological parts are your loaded, faulty definitions attempting to show an inconsistency which isn't there.

    (Though I fully acknowledge that you're so twisted up in ideological blindness that you may actually think your definitions are valid. But, refer to the part of my post about honest observers.)


    And I asked you to explain the pro-life position if denying poor pregnant women and infants hospital care isn't in effect pro-death.
    And I told you your terminology was flawed and illustrated why with a counter-example (which you left out when you quoted me).



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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    which is crap.

    For people who are too poor to afford insurance and care I am willing to support social services for them. But for people who CAN afford health insurance but for one reason or another CHOOSE not to invest in their health, I have no remorse. They should be saddled with debt for years or not given full treatment. I have no remorse for people who knowingly make poor decisions at the expense of others.
    I don't disagree with you. It's just like I say, if someone shows up at the emergency room in need of life saving treatment, they will get it regardless of whether they have insurance or not. The cost for their treatment just gets passed on to everyone else.

    This might be true for hospitals but not for individuals. In fact, because of the many legal problems opened up by negligence, the best thing to do for your own sake is to call 911 and nothing else. If you try to help someone and somehow hurt them or aggravate them, even unintentionally, you can be sued.
    That is a good point. However, my point was that you are legally obligated to do something, as in contact 911, you can't just do nothing though.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. The ideological parts are your loaded, faulty definitions attempting to show an inconsistency which isn't there.

    There was no way to fail, because the challenge as presented was faulty.
    I simply asked you to explain the pro-life position, given the circumstances, you never did. fail
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    I have "Medicare,Part B", whose premiums are extracted from my social security.
    The cost is about $1,100 -$1,200, annually.
    This covers a little, but none of orthodontics nor optics..
    We do need a better, simpler system...
    Back in the late 80s, The Blue Cross/Blue Shield "Cobra" would have cost, as I recall, $600 per month. This expense could have bankrupted me.
    I said NO!
    So, am I satisfied ?
    Hell no!

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    I'm unsatisfied because my premiums keep rising & my coverage keep dropping. Pretty soon, the HC industry will just be more honest & show up at your door...with a gun....& just rob you like a man!

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    I'm covered by the UK's National Health Service, and I'm very satisfied with the care I receive. I'd like the NHS to standardise access to various tests and treatments over different areas so one isn't waiting 3 before being put forward for a test in one district, and being put forward immediately in another, and I'd to see more access to community-based mental health care, but otherwise I've no complaints.
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