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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    I have Blue Cross Blue Shield and haven't had a problem.

    I've had dental but haven't used it which pisses me off because I get 1 or 2 free cleanings a year.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So ultimately, everyone else must assume a financial risk by your choosing not have insurance.
    You know, it isn't always a choice. Everyone else who wants to complain about the extra financial risk that my healthcare imposes upon them can ****ing choke on it as far as I care-- along with everyone who wants to tell me that I'm "living above my means" and should just do without health care because I can't get a better job.

    I am grateful for the government programs that have allowed me to get the routine healthcare I need so far, and for the fact that I can get emergency services when I need them at no cost to anything but my credit rating and my dignity. However, as you point out, it is grossly inefficient and unfair to those who end up having to foot the bill for those services-- and unlike my medical bills, I do pay my share of the taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold
    It's one of many things I do without, and hold no one responsible save myself.
    I don't blame anyone for it, but for the reasons the SouthernDemocrat lays out in his post above, I do support government-funded health insurance as a matter of sensible policy.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The problem is that if you needed life saving treatment, the hospital would obligated to treat you even though you were uninsured. The costs for your treatment would the be passed on to everyone else. So ultimately, everyone else must assume a financial risk by your choosing not have insurance.
    You assume that I wouldn't have the good manners to just die. To be honest, I don't really think I could be bothered to undergo any complicated treatments. Single, childless men over a certain age tend to have a somewhat attenuated connection to life anyway.

    You also assume that I could choose to purchase insurance. I suppose I could if I gave up eating and my neighbors would tolerate me traipsing about unclothed.

    I did have a major injury a few years ago, and arranged payments. I also became a volunteer EMT to return the favors I was given.

    It still is not your political responsibility to provide, much less force me to acquire your vision of health care.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    You assume that I wouldn't have the good manners to just die. To be honest, I don't really think I could be bothered to undergo any complicated treatments. Single, childless men over a certain age tend to have a somewhat attenuated connection to life anyway.

    You also assume that I could choose to purchase insurance. I suppose I could if I gave up eating and my neighbors would tolerate me traipsing about unclothed.

    I did have a major injury a few years ago, and arranged payments. I also became a volunteer EMT to return the favors I was given.

    It still is not your political responsibility to provide, much less force me to acquire your vision of health care.

    Mind your own flock, and leave me mine.
    I am not telling you to jump on the Universal Health care bandwagon. I am just pointing out that if you are involved in a serious accident, you will get medical treatment, that medical treatment could be hundreds of thousands of dollars and as a result, everyone else will have to pay for it. If something serious enough happens to you, you are not going to be able to just work off the payments no more than you could volunteer your time a few days week in exchange for The Biltmore Estate. That's a fact, there is no disputing that.

    The problem with your not having health insurance regardless of whether its just by choice or because you cannot afford it, is that it increases the cost of health care for everyone else. Thus everyone else has a vested interest in you having health insurance. For example, if we did not mandate that all drivers carry liability insurance, then the cost of insurance for drivers that did choose to carry insurance would be significantly more than it is now. Thus everyone has a vested interest in all drivers having liability coverage. The fact is, no one lives in a vacuum, we live in a society, and the costs of the uninsured is one of the drivers of health care cost inflation which affects all of us.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    No issues whatsoever.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The problem is that if you needed life saving treatment, the hospital would obligated to treat you even though you were uninsured.
    Yes. And these unfunded mandates are what drive up costs and deficits.

    There's no reason to expect health care providers to deliver to you their goods and services w/o getting paid, and there's no reason anyone else other than you should pay them.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes. And these unfunded mandates are what drive up costs and deficits.

    There's no reason to expect health care providers to deliver to you their goods and services w/o getting paid, and there's no reason anyone else other than you should pay them.
    So what you are saying is that if a 18 year old kid without health insurance gets hit by a hit and run driver as he is walking across the street, that kid should just lay in front of the hospital and bleed to death because he has no insurance?

    That is essentially what you are saying.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So what you are saying is that if a 18 year old kid without health insurance gets hit by a hit and run driver as he is walking across the street, that kid should just lay in front of the hospital and bleed to death because he has no insurance?
    Bad luck sucks. Welcome to the world.
    It doesnt change the fact that these unfunded mandates are what drive up costs and deficits.

    That is essentially what you are saying.
    The question you need to ask is how does someone's right to health care exist with such force that it take precedence over the right of health care providers to be paid for the goods and services they provide, and/or justofy forcing other people to pay for same.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    there's no way I could afford health care right now
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The question you need to ask is how does someone's right to health care exist with such force that it take precedence over the right of health care providers to be paid for the goods and services they provide, and/or justofy forcing other people to pay for same.
    I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume you're pro-life as well?

    So if an uninsured pregnant women shows up at the hospital, you are for denying her care?

    And if she did give birth to a baby with special needs, you're against any care for the infant as well?

    Last edited by Joe1991; 08-19-09 at 04:26 PM.

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