rondosocal
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goobieman I do not accept the tenets you purport.
Because....?goobieman I do not accept the tenets you purport.
So, you agree with me.Your tenets --
I think everyone should be responsible for themselves...
So, you agree with me.I think I addressed the issue of everyone should be compensated for their services and I have never proposed otherwise.
This is a red herring and does not address the issue.How can it be right to force me to pay taxes to support an aggressive military machine which may have gotten my neighbor's son killed for a phony war but not right to use my taxes to provide universal health care to the same neighbor?
Mind if I ask why you're paying so much? Is someone really sick in your family?I am profoundly unsatisfied. We just rec'd notice of *another* rate hike, 25% this time, effective Oct 1. That's on top of 19% last year, and 33% the year before. Our family health coverage will now cost more than $19k/yr ....
This is $!#@%%%@@ insane !
Mind if I ask why you're paying so much? Is someone really sick in your family?
Since there is so much debate about government intervention in health care, I'm wondering, how satisified are you with your current health insurance provider?
I can corroborate that- Jackalope and I both live in Maine. $25,000 a year is what it costs for a low deductible policy for my family of 3.Mind if I ask why you're paying so much? Is someone really sick in your family?
I can corroborate that- Jackalope and I both live in Maine. $25,000 a year is what it costs for a low deductible policy for my family of 3.
In a recent letter to the editor, a woman claimed her family premiums are now $35,000 a year. Premiums, not health care costs! One insurer with 80% market share-that is where the system is headed. Maine is just somewhat in advance of the rest of you.
I can corroborate that- Jackalope and I both live in Maine. $25,000 a year is what it costs for a low deductible policy for my family of 3.
In a recent letter to the editor, a woman claimed her family premiums are now $35,000 a year. Premiums, not health care costs! One insurer with 80% market share-that is where the system is headed. Maine is just somewhat in advance of the rest of you.
What company, or companies, are you talking about?
Cost/benefit analysis.
Try it on sometime.
Have you considered the occurrences of both dead weight loss, as well as the spillover cost effect on prices? Not that i believe health care should be nationalized, but there is an entire group of people who for some reason or another, cannot obtain insurance.
On the other hand, American obesity is an obstacle not even perfect health care reform can cover (given the amount of both DWL and unintended consequences).
The reason Frances health care seems to work (for the people) is due to the fact that obesity is not a true epidemic. It is a major issue here.
I am not willing to tell people what they can and cannot eat. I am willing to say to people, though, that if you want to be covered by insurance that the country pays for, you will meet certain health standards that are a personal choice or you will pay for your coverage/care out of your own pocket.
And you would be correct because to a rather small point, obesity can be a pre-existing condition.
But getting back to CBA, what happens when HMO's and other private entities deny people coverage for whatever reason? The answer is both dead weight loss, as well as a spillover effect in prices. If someone does not have coverage, they are far more likely to go to the ER to receive basic care that could be provided by a general practitioner. So while they are busy looking at Joe Dirt's sore throat, someone who just had their foot sliced open with a chain saw is in the waiting room with it wrapped up with a towel (true story). Of course, Joe Dirt is not going to pay for his services rendered, and the total cost of repairing the guys foot has just increased from $10k to $15k.
Emergency rooms are not going to deny coverage. You might have to wait, but you will eventually be seen, which carries the risk of extremely high opportunity costs.