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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I was actually going to thank your post, until you decided to be a complete dick in the last sentence.

    Well I'd have hated to let you down Kandahar.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    I said your society was barbaric, not United Statesian individuals. I am commenting on your system, whereas your insult shows you are a xenophobe. I am not even French, I just happen to live here. You jump to conclusions too readily. Do try harder.
    Yeah, I'm a xenophobe. Run with that one, spanky.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    The United Statesian system is over costly for poor outcomes and at the exclusion of many - all in the name of profit. The sign of a barbaric society.
    Really? Because I see a penchant to taking to the streets in protest to avoid an honest day's work to be a sign of a barbaric society.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    In free countries we have a right to strike. Check out French pruductivity rates before you comment.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    In free countries we have a right to strike. Check out French pruductivity rates before you comment.
    Please share with me these productivity rates...

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It doesn't matter how many times you bring up charity either. It doesn't change the fact that people show up at emergency rooms without insurance, and the emergency rooms are legally obligated to give them life saving treatment. That is the reality you are unwilling to accept because it would result in, God Forbid, you for once in your life on here having to say, well yeah, that's true.
    Your continued restatement of your position does nothing to support it, or cournter the argument against it. That's reality.

    Well see that is the problem, the law disagrees with you there. The law states that if I am dropped in front of you bleeding to death, I have a right to your assistance if you have the ability to give it, and if you ignore that right, you can and will be prosecuted
    No... this is a privilege you have, because the law gives it to you.
    Take the law away, and you no longer enjoy that privilege.
    Thus, it is a pirvilege, not a right.

    Thus, the difference between rights and privileges, and how -your- position doesnt touch upon the reality of the situation.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    http://crr.bc.edu/images/stories/Bri...c4de9t51d9eb41


    I was just checking out a report from the Center of Retirement Research at Boston University.

    I was specifically checking it to see if America's habbits (especially obesiety) have an effect on the life exspectancy (of the elderly in this report) instead of our healthcare system.

    However... when it was comparing many factors to see if they statistically could predict the life exspectancy of the elderly.

    Interestingly, it said that obesiety was "not statisticaly significant" in that developed nations with higher obesiety rates didn't really have different life exspectancy for the elderly with everything else kept constant. However, that can be because the current elderly were less likely to be obese when they were younger as people today.


    But if anything, the GDP per capita of the lower 40 percentile of income earners seems to a very important statistic. America simply has less wealth for the poorer individuals, so it is harder for them to get a higher standard of living, which reduces life exspectancy.


    People should check this out, even if it relates to factors effecting the elderly, instead of everyone.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    America's most troubling issue will not be the increased cost burden of the uninsured, but the increased cost of dealing with obesity. People can freak out about insurance, higher taxes, etc..., but unless we have a serious revision in our personal health decisions, no "health system" will be able to afford the costs.

    Spillover via preexisting conditions is a problem. Tobacco use is a problem. Wealth gaps that lead to under insured/un insured is a problem. But nothing can trump the singing fat lady. I was just in Paris, and was utterly amazed when i returned to O'Hare airport; there were more obese people in the lines at McDonald's than i had seen in my entire trip (10 days).
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I was actually going to thank your post, until you decided to be a complete dick in the last sentence.
    Being a 'complete dick' is a great description of the liberal mindset. They fancy themselves as the smart set, yet then casually spit out inanities such as the U.S. is a 'barbaric' society and that profit motive destroys health care.

    I suppose that in the civilized French and British socialized systems there is no accounting done, no financial books kept, no regard for the euro whatsoever.


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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Being a 'complete dick' is a great description of the liberal mindset. They fancy themselves as the smart set, yet then casually spit out inanities such as the U.S. is a 'barbaric' society and that profit motive destroys health care.
    So, if it's not the profit motive that's made our health care system impossible for lower-income/unemployed/underemployed people to afford, what is it?

    Before you answer, consider this:

    To give a clearer picture of which healthcare firms are earning the most, Newman has compiled some data from Capital IQ, a division of Standard & Poor’s, showing net profit margins over the past 12 months for a number of well-known companies.

    “The following list includes the three largest firms in each of five different sectors: biotechnology, drug manufacturers, healthcare plans, healthcare services, and medical equipment. Some of these numbers are sure to be off-putting to Americans who are making sacrifices to pay for healthcare or can't afford it at all.”

    • Amgen (biotechnology): Profit margin, 30.6 percent
    • Gilead Sciences (biotechnology): 37.6 percent
    • Celgene Corp. (biotechnology): 11.9 percent
    • Johnson & Johnson (drug manufacturer): 20.8 percent
    • Pfizer (drug manufacturer): 16.3 percent
    • GlaxoSmithKline (drug manufacturer): 17.4 percent
    • Unitedhealth Group (healthcare plans): 4.1 percent
    • WellPoint (healthcare plans): 4 percent
    • Aetna (healthcare plans): 3.9 percent
    • MedcoHealth Solutions (healthcare services): 2.1 percent
    • Express Scripts (healthcare services): 3.7 percent
    • Quest Diagnostics (healthcare services): 8.7 percent
    • Medtronic (medical equipment): 14.9 percent
    • Baxter International (medical equipment): 17.5 percent
    • Covidien (medical equipment): 12.3 percent

    Sources: Morningstar; Capital IQ . --The Century Foundation

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