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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Most of the people who say they are satisfied with their health insurance have never actually needed it. Just wait until you get a major illness, THEN see how much you like your insurance. Granted, it's much better if you have it through your employer. Individual insurers (like the plan I have) are downright despicable in their unethical business practices.

    That's why arguments that a public option will put private insurers out of business are totally lost on me. Why should I care? Why shouldn't I celebrate their demise?
    Because even with the headache private insurance has been, the government option will most certainly be worse.

    If you don't believe me, ask anyone who has dealt with the INS/CIS recently.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Because even with the headache private insurance has been, the government option will most certainly be worse.

    If you don't believe me, ask anyone who has dealt with the INS/CIS recently.
    Then don't participate in the public option.
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Then don't participate in the public option.
    After 5 years you get no choice.

    I am a diabetic with high blood pressure and I like my insurance. Sort of makes your theory questionable. Am I the exception of the rule?
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    After 5 years you get no choice.
    Where is that provision in the legislation?

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    I am a diabetic with high blood pressure and I like my insurance. Sort of makes your theory questionable. Am I the exception of the rule?
    You probably have insurance through your employer. Am I right?
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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Where is that provision in the legislation?

    You will be required to have some medical insurance or pay a fine. Thats not exactly saying you have to have goverment insurance but you still have to participate in medical insurance if HR3200 is passed.

    Thats also not taking into consideration that the president and other top democrates objective is to eventually go with a single payer plan. Several of them including the president have said that was the goal and the stepping stone to get there was a national health care option.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    You will be required to have some medical insurance or pay a fine. Thats not exactly saying you have to have goverment insurance but you still have to participate in medical insurance if HR3200 is passed.
    Thats also not taking into consideration that the president and other top democrates objective is to eventually go with a single payer plan. Several of them including the president have said that was the goal and the stepping stone to get there was a national health care option.
    Can you provide a link that the President ever said such a thing?

    I recall that the Pres. Obama spoke of an "ideal world" in health care. To my knowledge he has never alleged that a public option would lead to single payer. I don't see why it would but it certainly would provide the competition that is sorely lacking in the industry.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Can you provide a link that the President ever said such a thing?

    I recall that the Pres. Obama spoke of an "ideal world" in health care. To my knowledge he has never alleged that a public option would lead to single payer. I don't see why it would but it certainly would provide the competition that is sorely lacking in the industry.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&feature=related"]YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance[/ame]
    Last edited by Baralis; 08-21-09 at 12:05 AM.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The reality is that It doesnt matter how many times you repeat this, it has been addressed: if you are so inclined to do so, you have every right to choose to help these people.


    And the right to be compensated for the goods and services you provide. Glad you agree.


    Yes -- political rights you have because the structure of government provides/requies them. Voting, due process, jury trial, etc, exist because there is a government that necessitates them.


    These are not rights, these are privileges, granted by law.

    Rights are self-actuated actions you can take do not impose on the rights of others. As such, you do NOT have the right to expect others to provide you with the means to exercise your rights, such as health care providers to present goods/services w/o compensation.
    Even though I completely disagree with you, in that I believe that the collective right of each individual to healthcare trumpts the right to not redistribute wealth...

    I would like to go back to the idea that charity can pay for what morally all people support, which is help for someone who needs life saving medical care.


    I was just wondering if there was any sort of information... for either view, that charity would be able to provide for all of the healthcare costs for life threatening illnesses. I have not been able to find the answer to a question like that, but I was wondering if anyone else had any answers.


    But remember, even if healthcare isn't a right as a human being, people are more then willing to give it away for free in the form of higher taxes.

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    I watched that highly edited video and Obama never said that the public option would lead to a single payer system. Not once.

    Is that the best you can do?

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    Re: How satisfied are you with your health insurance provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Then don't participate in the public option.
    I will have no choice but to participate as I will be paying for it.

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