Free Medical Clinics, Free Dental Clinics, Free Medical Help All over USA
Walgreens Clinics Offer Free Medical Care for Unemployed, Uninsured Workers - On Health and Money (usnews.com)
Free clinics fill medical void - USATODAY.com
If they want it here they can get it.
What I can't figure out is why people seem to think this kind of service does not exist here???
No Lives Matter
I understand that there are some free medical services, but these services do nothing more than increase the burden on the ever shrinking Middle Class. Until there is REAL reform that ends the doubling of medical costs every decade, then we are in store for the end of the Middle Class. As costs continue to rise, as wages stay stagnant, more and more will slip into the category of uninsured, this will increase the burden on those remaining until the whole thing collapses. People argue that the market will fix itself, but this has proven untrue for the past thirty years, as the number of mergers between insurance providers has narrowed the field down to a monopoly. These monopolies are responsible to whom? Investors, as insurance is a business, not a service. So in order to keep investors happy, insurance companies have to increase profit margins by paying as little as possible to doctors and hospitals, and by giving the least amount as coverage possible for the greatest amount. Nothing about this is the illustration of the market working.
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For those who believe health care is a 'right' I'll pose the following question...
Do I have a 'right' to any health care I elect? Or is my 'right' to health care limited to the care that the government deems fit? For instance, is a heart transplant a 'right?' Is liposuction a 'right?' Is a prescription for Viagra a 'right?' Or is my 'right' limited to a visit with my local doctor to discuss these options?
And furthermore, how often am I allowed to exercise my 'right' to health care? Do I have a 'right' to visit my doctor daily? Weekly? Or is my 'right' to see the doctor limited to a government schedule of some sort?
Last edited by Grateful Heart; 08-19-09 at 09:27 AM.
How are free clinics "increasing the burden on the shrinking middle class?"
Do you think handing healthcare over to the government will stop...
"Until there is REAL reform that ends the doubling of medical costs every decade, then we are in store for the end of the Middle Class. As costs continue to rise, as wages stay stagnant, more and more will slip into the category of uninsured, this will increase the burden on those remaining until the whole thing collapses." - tlmorg02
No Lives Matter
It's funny I have been watching the votes. Every time a person on the forum votes no, mysteriously the yes gets another invisible vote.
Liberal honesty at work.
No Lives Matter
Now obviously though self ownership gives you the right to say what you want, be who you want, do with your body what you want, enjoy the fruits of your own labor and so on, one can't argue that self ownership entitles them to health care. So health care if it is a right is not a right that stems from self ownership.
So if health care is a right, it is a right based in the moral notion of Human Rights or Humanitarian Law. Humanitarian law is much different than self ownership in that humanitarian law can actually compel action by an individual. For example, if you witness an accident you are compelled by humanitarian law to assist a victim that needs your assistance. Let's say a child is seriously injured and comes to your door asking for help. If you do nothing and allow them to simply bleed to death on your lawn without doing anything or contacting emergency services, you can be prosecuted simply because you did nothing. In such a case, that child would have a right to assistance by you even though that right obviously is not derived from self ownership. Its a human right, based in humanitarian law rather than self ownership and just like many other rights we enjoy, its found no where in the constitution because as I pointed out, the constitution does not grant rights, it primarily restricts the powers of government.
So the real question is whether or not health care is a human right. Emergency care is almost universally held to be a human right. A hospital cannot deny you treatment for life saving care because life saving care is considered to be a human right even if you cannot afford it.
Now some have pointed out that a need is not necessarily a right and used housing and food as an example. The problem with that argument is that its not as black and white as they would like it to be. For example, if we had tens of millions of Americans that could not afford housing or food, we would probably be reevaluating as a society how we provide housing and food. The reason for this is that it is implicit in the social contract that underlies all free societies that basic human needs have to be accessible to the majority of the individuals in that society. The individual does not have the right to be given free food in a society where the vast majority of people can afford food for themselves. However, if the availability and cost of food were such that a significant percentage of people could not afford it, then the general welfare of the people kicks in and the society due to human rights is compelled to find some sort of a solution whether its public or private.
So the point in all of this is that whether or not health care is a right is not simple enough to be summed up in a bumper sticker slogan.
Last edited by SouthernDemocrat; 08-19-09 at 09:58 AM.
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