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Thread: Is health care in the US a right?

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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    There is of course the possibility that you meant your thread to be a trap.......Hoping someone would respond with the broader interpretation of the word "Right" only so that you could spring your "Trap" of saying that their argument failed, since it didn't address the strict, Constitutional meaning that you could claim you meant.
    Look at the other responses in the thread. Look at how many.

    That comment is absolutely stupid.

    I corrected your wrong assumption about the SCOTUS and how it applys, nothing more. Get over it and stop with the fallacy twisting yet AGAIN.

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    (that would have been deceitful & therefore I choose not to believe that possibility.
    Yes it would be and I wear my emotions and intentions on my sleeve, so that's that.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I wear my emotions and intentions on my sleeve, so that's that.
    I accept that & believe you.

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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    To restart the debate on the question posed by this thread:

    Health care in the USA is not currently a right.

    Should it be?

    I think not.

    If, however, laws can be passed providing HC for a portion of or even all of the population, would that make it a right?

    No.

    If Congress passed an Amendment enshrining HC as a right, would that make it a right?

    Not in my mind.

    So.

    Not only is there no current right to HC, but in my view, there never will be.
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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To restart the debate on the question posed by this thread:

    Health care in the USA is not currently a right.

    Should it be?

    I think not.

    If, however, laws can be passed providing HC for a portion of or even all of the population, would that make it a right?

    No.

    If Congress passed an Amendment enshrining HC as a right, would that make it a right?

    Not in my mind.

    So.

    Not only is there no current right to HC, but in my view, there never will be.
    Absolutely. I was thinking along similar lines as you. No reason exist in this country for the people to have reasonably priced health care. Part of the problem is because of insurance no competition exist in the market so you get all the hyper inflated prices.

    I am not sure how but we need to make the entire health industry compete. This would lower prices and cause people to look for the best deals rather than just going to a doctor and not looking at prices.

    Competition rather than forcing by government would have longer term good effects and actually be good for the consumer and Burnes alike. No band aid is needed. Best part is the government would not be footing the bill.

    This is just a start but it would be a better place to start then government control.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 08-31-09 at 07:18 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No reason exist in this country for the people to have reasonably priced health care.
    Then why do we (as a society) find it reasonable to protect each other from fire by paying taxes to have a fire dept. in every community in the country?


    Then why do we (as a society) find it reasonable to pay for a federal Coast Guard to save many people in peril at sea?


    Some things we do collectively because it is just the right & moral thing to do. Providing reasonably priced HC for all is such a thing.

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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Then why do we (as a society) find it reasonable to protect each other from fire by paying taxes to have a fire dept. in every community in the country?


    Then why do we (as a society) find it reasonable to pay for a federal Coast Guard to save many people in peril at sea?


    Some things we do collectively because it is just the right & moral thing to do. Providing reasonably priced HC for all is such a thing.
    If you read the rest of the post you would see that makes no sense at all.

    It was supposed to say "No reason exist in this country for the people not to have reasonably priced health care.."

    Please read the whole post, you would have seen that the sentence made no sense as I made a typo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If you read the rest of the post you would see that makes no sense at all.

    It was supposed to say "No reason exist in this country for the people not to have reasonably priced health care.."

    Please read the whole post, you would have seen that the sentence made no sense as I made a typo.

    I'm not a mind reader. I can only respond to what people actually say....Not what they meant to say.
    If that is what you believe, then we are in agreement.

    You originally said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    . No reason exist in this country for the people to have reasonably priced health care.

    So it's my mistake for reading your words accurately??
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-31-09 at 09:46 PM.

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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'm not a mind reader. I can only respond to what people actually say....Not what they meant to say.
    If that is what you believe, then we are in agreement.

    You originally said:




    So it's my mistake for reading your words accurately??
    While true, the overall theme and tone of the rest of his post should have given you reason to question that statement, and ask if he, perhaps, had mis-typed.
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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'm not a mind reader. I can only respond to what people actually say....Not whjat they meant to say.

    You said:
    You did not read the whole post or if you did you still zoomed into one part that was out of place. Do you honestly think anyone would say we do not deserve reasonably priced health care? Common sense.

    I don't expect anyone to be a mind reader, I do expect people to use common sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is health care in the US a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    While true, the overall theme and tone of the rest of his post should have given you reason to question that statement, and ask if he, perhaps, had mis-typed.
    I didn't see any reason to go beyond his first statement, which was so blatantly wrong/immoral that I went no further in his post.
    Words are important...That's all we have in these forums so.......Proofread a bit or go back & edit.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-31-09 at 09:50 PM.

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