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    Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    Should police be allowed to confiscate firearms from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?



    I say no.






    2,000 Guns Confiscated Under Conn. Seizure Law - wcbstv.com
    2,000 Guns Confiscated Under Conn. Seizure Law
    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) ― Police in Connecticut say they've now seized more than 2,000 firearms under a 1999 law that allows authorities to confiscate guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others.

    A report prepared for the state legislature says state and local police seized 2,093 guns from October 1999 to May 2009.
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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    "Suspect"? No.

    Suspicion is merely that, suspicion unsupported by probable cause.

    No right is supposed to be abridged by prior constraint without at least probable cause.

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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    If the law allows for it, that is fine. There is nothing wrong with police executing their duty under the law. Whether such a law is constitutional or not, I am less certain.

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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    Our legal system is founded on people being punished after it has been proved that they did something wrong.

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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    They better have hard evidence of something. Suspicion leaves a gapping hole that can and is abused.
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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    Obviously, I'd make an exception if they realized that a serious crime was imminent.

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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should police be allowed to confiscate firearms from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?



    I say no.






    2,000 Guns Confiscated Under Conn. Seizure Law - wcbstv.com
    2,000 Guns Confiscated Under Conn. Seizure Law
    HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) ― Police in Connecticut say they've now seized more than 2,000 firearms under a 1999 law that allows authorities to confiscate guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others.

    A report prepared for the state legislature says state and local police seized 2,093 guns from October 1999 to May 2009.
    Absolutely, so long as they can honestly articulate the supposed threat. I failed to disarm a mentally disturbed person once many, many years ago. The judge said the family had the guy under control and probate court would decide his fate. I recommended we seize his firearms and was told not to.

    That was my last day on duty before leaving for annual training with my reserve unit. On the bus trip to the airport I got a page. My boss was calling to tell me the bad guy had took his 12 gauge and went to a preachers home, knocked on the door, and shot him in the head when he answered. Right in front of the preachers daughter.
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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    I voted "no".

    But I am only partially correct.

    If there is evidence and reason to suspect that someone is about to harm others, it would seem reasonable to TEMPORAILY disarm them. It would also seem reasonable to return the weapon which was taken if the suspicion is disproved/unfounded.

    The problem with that is, the person in question has to prove their innocence - the reverse of the norm.

    I suppose such is a case-by-case matter.
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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

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    If the law allows for it, that is fine. There is nothing wrong with police executing their duty under the law. Whether such a law is constitutional or not, I am less certain.
    It is unconstitutional... plain and simple.
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    Re: Should police take guns from people they suspect might harm themselves or others?

    Depends. What are the criteria for "suspect?"

    Proven severe chronic cases of mental illness causing regular occurrences of voices and hallucinations with violent fantasies?

    I'd be okay with disarmament with potential for regaining firearms after getting professional help

    Suspected member of a gang? Not a chance.
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