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  • Protestant Christian

    28 17.50%
  • Roman Catholic Christian

    10 6.25%
  • Sunni Muslim

    5 3.13%
  • Shiite Muslim

    1 0.63%
  • Jewish

    4 2.50%
  • Buddhist

    3 1.88%
  • Hindu

    2 1.25%
  • Atheist/Agnostic

    67 41.88%
  • Other

    40 25.00%
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    But the belief is nothing is not ludicrous? Both are unprovable, but the existence of God is much more likely.
    How have you managed to conclude that, then?
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    But the belief is nothing is not ludicrous? Both are unprovable, but the existence of God is much more likely.

    I know no one wanted a religious debate thread, but this guy should not be insulting all of those who have faith.
    I understand your complaint My guess is the poster feels the way I do which is wonder, "How could I have believed this for so long?" My horror isn't an insult to those who do believe. I don't fault anyone for believing--just myself.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    How have you managed to conclude that, then?
    Where does matter come from?

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Where does matter come from?
    And that elevates the possibility of God...how? Considering every scientific question we have ever asked, and every scientific discovery ever made to answer those questions derive purely from nature, id say the chances of God existing is even lower now than it has ever been, and your wrong.

    As i said, im Agnostic, and i believe in God, but your trying to prove God exists from nothing.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    All that science can show are attributes of matter. We cannot even conceive of a way for science to explain the origin of matter.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    All that science can show are attributes of matter. We cannot even conceive of a way for science to explain the origin of matter.
    Random vacuum fluctuations can produce matter from "nothing" (it's not nothing though, it's due to the curvature of space). There are theories to show why we are matter dominated and not 50/50 matter/anti-matter as well. But there are a lot of unknowns at this point. Why does an unknown imply a god? I mean at one time it was inconceivable that the earth orbited the sun. The idea of modern medicine wasn't always known either. Did that mean that these things are rooted in gods? Or that we just didn't know at the time? Which one is more likely?
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    All that science can show are attributes of matter. We cannot even conceive of a way for science to explain the origin of matter.
    So you've concluded that God likely exists simply because science cannot disprove something? While Science is constantly progressing and finding small puzzle pieces of evidence that will eventually, inevitably, give us the answer, yet the religious makes no progress and finds no puzzle pieces of evidence to disprove science and prove the existence of God?
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    Re: What is your religion?

    I practice Buddhism and thats how I voted but Buddhism isn't a religion
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    But the belief is nothing is not ludicrous? Both are unprovable, but the existence of God is much more likely.
    Magic man in the sky is much more likely than demonstrable reality? How did you come to that conclusion?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwaters View Post
    I practice Buddhism and thats how I voted but Buddhism isn't a religion
    So Buddist do not follow or adhere to a set of beliefs or customs or have something one follows devoutly?
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