To call belief based on evidence, faith rather than reason is to utterly misunderstand the term. Faith is belief without evidence. You would call the reason to trust in science, evidence, reason and logic a faith, and then dare to accuse us of equivocating?
If my belief that the sun will rise again tomorrow is a "faith," then EVERYTHING that can be known is. All you're doing is trying to paint atheists as faith based, and failing at it.
It takes no faith to be unconvinced by logically fallacious arguments for the supernatural.
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Who left the fridge open?
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Athiests have faith that there is no God, they believe "There is no God", not "I don't know".....
Unless you can prove how the universe was created, what was there before it, etc etc... saying "there is no God" is faith, in a belief that "there is no god"....
That's how I see it.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Most people who believe the sun will come up tomorrow don't have "faith" that it will come up. What they have is a confidence based upon and limited by repeatable, objective experiences. But what you want to do is claim that such people have faith because they don't believe that the sun won't come up tomorrow. What you fail to comprehend is that atheists and theists are not operating or thinking the same way. We are not forming and evaluating beliefs in a similar manner. So your use of the word "faith" on both types of people is an equivocation: Equivocation is classified as both a formal and informal fallacy. It is the misleading use of a term with more than one meaning or sense (by glossing over which meaning is intended at a particular time).
Of course, I predict you won't be able to differentiate between the two.
Actually, we're doing a pretty good job. We don't have a complete answer but we certainly have excellent ideas and evidence to back them up. But even if we didn't, that doesn't give theists license to just make crap up because they don't like not knowing. That's essentially what religion is.Unless you can prove how the universe was created, what was there before it, etc etc... saying "there is no God" is faith, in a belief that "there is no god"....
"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi