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  • Protestant Christian

    28 17.50%
  • Roman Catholic Christian

    10 6.25%
  • Sunni Muslim

    5 3.13%
  • Shiite Muslim

    1 0.63%
  • Jewish

    4 2.50%
  • Buddhist

    3 1.88%
  • Hindu

    2 1.25%
  • Atheist/Agnostic

    67 41.88%
  • Other

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    Re: What is your religion?

    It was the last ten minutes of his talk that I found the most interesting. Meditation inner voice etc.

    Also his talk of lynchingís. Basically Jesus was lynched in the same manner as he describes.

    Mr 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.

    This man speaks of love and the end of racism. Jesus pretty much taught the same thing. Do unto others look after the poor ,Every man look after brother etc.

    This man should be careful. He may come out of one of his meditative states one day and discover he is no longer an atheist.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    It was the last ten minutes of his talk that I found the most interesting. Meditation inner voice etc.

    Also his talk of lynchingís. Basically Jesus was lynched in the same manner as he describes.

    Mr 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.

    This man speaks of love and the end of racism. Jesus pretty much taught the same thing. Do unto others look after the poor ,Every man look after brother etc.

    This man should be careful. He may come out of one of his meditative states one day and discover he is no longer an atheist.

    Moe
    Why would he be "careful" when he is actively trying to understand spiritual experiences? If he had any reason to be a theist, he would change his mind without hesitation when faced with the new evidence. That is what it means to be a rational human being with intellectual integrity.

    Its not as if he is afraid of being a theist.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Why would he be "careful" when he is actively trying to understand spiritual experiences? If he had any reason to be a theist, he would change his mind without hesitation when faced with the new evidence. That is what it means to be a rational human being with intellectual integrity.

    Its not as if he is afraid of being a theist.
    I have said this before. According to scripture man is created in the image of God. If you really want to find and experience God the best way is to look inward. Not outward. All the great sages and prophets were heavy into fasting, isolation and meditative prayer.

    1ki 19:11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
    1ki 19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
    1ki 19:13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Non-demoninational "Christian" for the most part, but I seriously have some issues with the Bible that man wrote being the "inspired Word of God."
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    I have said this before. According to scripture man is created in the image of God. If you really want to find and experience God the best way is to look inward. Not outward. All the great sages and prophets were heavy into fasting, isolation and meditative prayer.

    1ki 19:11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the LORD. And, behold, the LORD passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the LORD; but the LORD was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the LORD was not in the earthquake:
    1ki 19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
    1ki 19:13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?
    Look inward at what? All we have is reality! If something manifests itself then you can examine it. If something does not manifest itself you cannot. If you have something then you can examine it, if you have nothing then you have nothing to examine.

    What is this inward stuff you are examining? And please don't be vague. There is either something to examine inward or there isn't. What is it exactly inside of you that you are examining? Or is it just figurative language? In which case, please stop using it and define exactly what you mean.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Look inward at what? All we have is reality! If something manifests itself then you can examine it. If something does not manifest itself you cannot. If you have something then you can examine it, if you have nothing then you have nothing to examine.

    What is this inward stuff you are examining? And please don't be vague. There is either something to examine inward or there isn't. What is it exactly inside of you that you are examining? Or is it just figurative language? In which case, please stop using it and define exactly what you mean.
    becuase you are such a phsyical person it is very difficult to explain spiritual things to you. I do not think a tibetian master could explain it to you so there is really no point in me even trying.

    Listen to the last 10 minutes of the the harris vid. He explains the minum basics of it I think rather well.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    becuase you are such a phsyical person it is very difficult to explain spiritual things to you.
    Until you can define precisely what spiritual is then it means different things to different people. Spiritual for a christian is not necessarily spiritual for a jew or a muslim or a wiccan. What is this spiritualism you speak of?

    I do not think a tibetian master could explain it to you so there is really no point in me even trying.
    ad-homs don't make your argument convincing. They make it appear desperate.

    Listen to the last 10 minutes of the the harris vid. He explains the minum basics of it I think rather well.
    Is it really that complicated that you can't even explain it?

    I'll watch it when I get home.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Until you can define precisely what spiritual is then it means different things to different people. Spiritual for a christian is not necessarily spiritual for a jew or a muslim or a wiccan. What is this spiritualism you speak of?
    Perhaps on the surface that may appear to be so. But what is any spiritual personís true Endeavour? To find and know the truth.

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    ad-homs don't make your argument convincing. They make it appear desperate.
    It was not an ad-hom. I am dead serious.

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    Is it really that complicated that you can't even explain it?
    To you, Yes. Perhaps you should talk to Ego about it. He is not a Christian and you may be more open to his views.
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    I'll watch it when I get home.
    You have not even watched the vid? I have always heard Harris described basically as the devil himself. I have not yet read anything by him. First time I have ever heard him speak and I cannot help but like the guy. Down to earth not looking for a fight just sharing his views.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    Perhaps on the surface that may appear to be so. But what is any spiritual personís true Endeavour? To find and know the truth.
    Red-herring. This doesn't help in defining what you claim to know about spiritualism. You are simply dodging the issue. And I will continue to point it out.

    It was not an ad-hom. I am dead serious.
    Being serious or not doesn't qualify or disqualify something as an ad-hom. All you did, was assert something and then fail to support it. This is a typical strategy of those with non-arguments.

    To you, Yes. Perhaps you should talk to Ego about it. He is not a Christian and you may be more open to his views.
    More unsubstantiated assertions. Why can't I understand? What exactly is it that I can't understand? Is this perpetual hide and seek game what you think makes your argument valid?
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    Re: What is your religion?

    I am a non-Denominational Christian, I take my faith very seriously and that is the focus of my life. Before I was a Christian I was an atheist.

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