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  • Protestant Christian

    28 17.50%
  • Roman Catholic Christian

    10 6.25%
  • Sunni Muslim

    5 3.13%
  • Shiite Muslim

    1 0.63%
  • Jewish

    4 2.50%
  • Buddhist

    3 1.88%
  • Hindu

    2 1.25%
  • Atheist/Agnostic

    67 41.88%
  • Other

    40 25.00%
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Both. LOL I never associated any religion with you, so it's interesting to me that religion is clearly important to you.

    Do you go to temple every weekend? If you would rather not discuss this, no worries. (I'll just PM you. KIDDING.)
    Interesting. I don't disclose much about myself, but I thought that both my Jewishness and my strong connection to my religion were pretty well known at DP. No, I don't go to temple every Friday, but I have my own ways of worshiping God.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: What is your religion?

    I have on religion, I have experienced God.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Atheist. Belief in imaginary friends is utterly ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Because there is no way to disprove a negative. Skepticism is one thing, that could be considered agnosticism. Atheism however means that you believe there are no gods. It cannot be proven, so it is a leap of faith.
    No, I don't believe in any deity, there is a huge difference. If someone asked me "Do you believe in god?" I would have to ask which one. I certainly believe in the Einstein/Spinoza notion of a god.

    You're an atheist in respect to every god you don't believe in. Agnosticism answers the epistemological question of what you know, and since no one "knows" anything about the supernatural, everyone is an agnostic. Whether or not you believe in a particular god makes you an atheist, or theist; in respect to that god.

    IMO this is why atheism is a problematic term, and we shouldn't define ourselves by what we don't believe in. I don't go around proclaiming that I am an a-unicornist, or non-astrologer.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I have plenty of arguments at least of the existence of some kind of divinity, the principal problem for me is the origin of matter and motion. After that comes the problem of free will. If we are simply composed of atoms and nothing more then there is no free will and we do not make our own decisions. Our decisions can conceivably be explained by laws of nature. After that is the problem of consciousness. Then there are other problems for the naturalist/atheist that I don't think I need to get into; these seem sufficient.
    How does any of that demonstrate the factual existence of any sort of divinity? What you're describing here almost entirely is the fallacy from ignorance. You don't understand it, therefore you're demanding that there be another, easier to understand explanation.

    Nothing you present is, in any way, evidence that any god(s) exist.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    How does any of that demonstrate the factual existence of any sort of divinity? What you're describing here almost entirely is the fallacy from ignorance. You don't understand it, therefore you're demanding that there be another, easier to understand explanation.

    Nothing you present is, in any way, evidence that any god(s) exist.
    This is just a poll, after all. It's not in the religion forum for debate.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Do you talk like that to religious people face to face in the real world? I don't mean the random zealot on the street, I mean the nice lady you work with who serves food to the homeless at the Presbyterian soup kitchen, the nice guy across the street who happens to be Methodist and works with his church's teen outreach down in the 'hood, the friendly receptionist at that office who wears a cross and goes to Mass every Sunday. When one of them says "God bless you" do you tell them "I don't need the blessings of your imaginary man in the sky"?
    Depending on how they say it, perhaps. Unfortunately, people have a certain expectation that religion gets special treatment just because it's a culturally-accepted delusion. Theists get to beat non-theists over the head with their religion left and right, but the second that non-theists tell them to knock it off, the theists scream discrimination. Maybe if theists would keep their beliefs to themselves and not try to force them on everyone, nobody would ever feel like responding in a non-generous manner.

    If I went out of my way to tell DP atheists they're going to hell for rejecting God, with the same frequency that DP atheists call my beliefs nonsense or use belittling phrases like you used, I'd be viewed as a rude, aggressive, hostile zealot.
    Actually, atheists get that kind of thing constantly and if you point out how rude it is, they shrug their shoulders and say they're trying to "save" you. But again... say anything against religion and they scream bloody murder. Whether you like it or not, no one has any obligation to pussyfoot around your religious beliefs and make you feel good about them. They don't warrant special consideration or special treatment. Just because you believe it doesn't mean I have to, nor that I have to respect the fact that you do. By the same token that I'd consider an adult believing in Santa Claus to be illogical and irrational, I consider anyone who believes in an invisible man in the sky to be illogical and irrational. The number of people who claim to believe such things doesn't change that. Sorry if that offends you.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Depending on how they say it, perhaps. Unfortunately, people have a certain expectation that religion gets special treatment just because it's a culturally-accepted delusion. Theists get to beat non-theists over the head with their religion left and right, but the second that non-theists tell them to knock it off, the theists scream discrimination. Maybe if theists would keep their beliefs to themselves and not try to force them on everyone, nobody would ever feel like responding in a non-generous manner.
    You're the victim? I don't think that I've ever called you delusional, maybe I missed it.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You're the victim? I don't think that I've ever called you delusional, maybe I missed it.
    Just because you don't personally do it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Besides, I never called you personally delusional, never said a thing about you personally, you simply took what I said as a general statement personally.

    Maybe that's the problem.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Unfortunately, people have a certain expectation that religion gets special treatment just because it's a culturally-accepted delusion.
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    Just because you don't personally do it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Besides, I never called you personally delusional, never said a thing about you personally, you simply took what I said as a general statement personally.

    Maybe that's the problem.
    People who you consider to hold delusional beliefs aren't delusional? I'd really like to see you weasel your way out of this one.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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