View Poll Results: What is your religion?

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  • Protestant Christian

    28 17.50%
  • Roman Catholic Christian

    10 6.25%
  • Sunni Muslim

    5 3.13%
  • Shiite Muslim

    1 0.63%
  • Jewish

    4 2.50%
  • Buddhist

    3 1.88%
  • Hindu

    2 1.25%
  • Atheist/Agnostic

    67 41.88%
  • Other

    40 25.00%
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Buddhists don't call it a religion because it's sort of more of a philosophy, if I understand it correctly.

    Of course it also depends on the particular sect of Buddhism. It's about a thousand times more fractured than Christianity.
    It is still a set of beliefs or customs that one follows or adheres to.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yup, I chose to because it's the same claim that's been made over and over and over (not in this particular thread, but in forums for years) without ever receiving a credible response, so after a long time of people making absurd claims without a shred of support, you get what the claim has coming.

    Respect is earned, not simply granted on a silver platter. If religion wants respect, it needs to actually back up what it has to say.
    Surprising that you've never proven that there is no God. Why should I give you any respect?

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Surprising that you've never proven that there is no God. Why should I give you any respect?
    I've never claimed there's no God. Quote where I have. I was, however, responding to someone who *DID* make a specific claim, yet has entirely failed to back it up.

    Try again.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    We are discussing beliefs. Something does not have to be proven true, shown as logical, or anything else to have a belief in it.

    Agnosticism is a claim about knowledge, which is related to whether one believes God(s) exist but does not answer the question. This is why claiming "agnosticm" as your religious belief doesn't make sense because it does not answer the question. There can be agnostic theists and agnostic atheists. Likewise there can be gnostic theists and gnostic atheists.

    Agnostic simply means you can't know certainty.
    Gnostic means you believe you can know certainty.
    Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God(s), (not necessarily active disbelief).
    Theism is simply a belief in God(s).

    For people unfaimiliar with these distinctions, agnostics are usually agnostic athiests.

    Agnostic atheist - does not believe the existence of Gods can be known and does not believe or has a lack of belief in God(s).

    Gnostic atheist - believes the existence of Gods can be known and does not believe or has a lack of belief in God(s).

    Agnostic theist - does not believe the existence of Gods can be known and believes in God(s).

    Gnostic theist - believes the existence of Gods can be known and believes in God(s).

    Once again, beliefs don't have to be true, verifiable, logical, etc. A belief is simply confidence in a claim.

    Also note that atheists include those who lack a belief--as opposed to disbelief. E.G., people who are undecided on whether God(s) exists or not and people who have never considered the question of God(s). (Remember, agnosticism is a claim about knowledge, not God)
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    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yup, I chose to because it's the same claim that's been made over and over and over (not in this particular thread, but in forums for years) without ever receiving a credible response, so after a long time of people making absurd claims without a shred of support, you get what the claim has coming.

    Respect is earned, not simply granted on a silver platter. If religion wants respect, it needs to actually back up what it has to say.

    I'm not talking about respect, I'm talking about basic politeness... though on this forum that would appear to be a lost cause.

    Do you talk like that to religious people face to face in the real world? I don't mean the random zealot on the street, I mean the nice lady you work with who serves food to the homeless at the Presbyterian soup kitchen, the nice guy across the street who happens to be Methodist and works with his church's teen outreach down in the 'hood, the friendly receptionist at that office who wears a cross and goes to Mass every Sunday. When one of them says "God bless you" do you tell them "I don't need the blessings of your imaginary man in the sky"?

    If I went out of my way to tell DP atheists they're going to hell for rejecting God, with the same frequency that DP atheists call my beliefs nonsense or use belittling phrases like you used, I'd be viewed as a rude, aggressive, hostile zealot.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Atheist. If there is a God, I've seen no satisfactory evidence for hs existence.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Gerstle View Post
    THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS DEBATE THREAD!! I just wanted to know the general religious background of this site.
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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Gerstle View Post
    THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS DEBATE THREAD!! I just wanted to know the general religious background of this site.

    Yeah, like that could ever happen here.

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    Re: What is your religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not talking about respect, I'm talking about basic politeness... though on this forum that would appear to be a lost cause.

    Do you talk like that to religious people face to face in the real world? I don't mean the random zealot on the street, I mean the nice lady you work with who serves food to the homeless at the Presbyterian soup kitchen, the nice guy across the street who happens to be Methodist and works with his church's teen outreach down in the 'hood, the friendly receptionist at that office who wears a cross and goes to Mass every Sunday. When one of them says "God bless you" do you tell them "I don't need the blessings of your imaginary man in the sky"?

    If I went out of my way to tell DP atheists they're going to hell for rejecting God, with the same frequency that DP atheists call my beliefs nonsense or use belittling phrases like you used, I'd be viewed as a rude, aggressive, hostile zealot.

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    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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