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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by SicSemperTyrannis View Post
    Ok I understand the law is different for DUI and animal cruelty cases, I'm saying that DUI murder/manslaughter should carry a much much more severe penalty than animal cruelty cases.
    It does. Vick was not charged with animal cruelty. Regardless, DUI manslaughter does carry a higher maximum penalty than dog fighting, so I don't know what you are upset about. The Stallworth case had a MAJOR mitigating factor legally. The dude ran in front of his car. So the prosecution was rightly concerned with reasonable doubt. Who caused the death? Was it the drunk guy driving in the proper lane, but speeding? Or was it the guy who ran out in front of his car? The mere fact he was DUI does not mean it was his fault the guy died. Not quite so cut and dried, is it? Vick's case was as cut and dried as any could be. He did it. He did it on purpose. All the time. Like I said, they are not even close.

    Yes, stringing up people and electrocuting them would get you at least life in prison. But aside from Jeffrey Dahmer, not sure too many people in this country are doing that.
    Doesn't matter. You said we "valued a dog's life more". That is factually incorrect. We clearly do not.

    According to MADD, 18,000 people died in alcohol realted auto-accidents in 2008. And, since alcohol inhibits judgement, if somebody were to argue intentionality of action about someone under the influence of alcohol, a good defense could have a field day making an argument about inability to make sound judgement while under the influence. It shouldn't matter if you aimed at a person or not, if you kill someone while driving under the influence you should get a hell of a lot more than 30 days in jail.
    See above. Who caused the death? Witnesses said the guy ran out in front of Stallworth's car. Had he not done that he'd be alive, no matter how drunk Stallworth was.

    So please, don't lecture me or make condescending remarks about how I don't know that the situations are different and the law says blah blah....because the comparison is not "logically stupid"(what?? ok oxyMORON), it actually makes quite a bit of sense if you actually paid attention to what I'm saying instead of trying to pick about my argument with irrelevant points. I'm sorry, who got pwned????
    Actually, of the two of us I was only one who made any sense at all. If you don't want your irrelevant points picked apart, then don't make them.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So are you boycotting Cleavland?
    yes.

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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    yes.

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    Broncos WR was accused of domestic violence but not convicted, what about that one?
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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Nah.....CleAvland doesn't have a football team.
    Does "Masschusetts"?
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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Broncos WR was accused of domestic violence but not convicted, what about that one?
    Dunno, not enough information and not caring enough to look it up.

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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Dunno, not enough information and not caring enough to look it up.
    I'm just trying to find the parameters of protest because it may be very likely that we'll have to boycott the vast majority of the NFL. But in the end, I think some people have their panties in a knot over some doggies and because of that will act in a way they normally wouldn't towards football players which get in trouble with the law. Tank Johnson got in trouble for gun registration with Chicago, boycott Bears/Cowboys? Plexico shot himself in the leg and is in trouble in NY for gun charges, boycott the Giants? Well they did release him, so it makes that one easily. Ray Lewis stabbed someone, Urlacher has child support issues (though it was mostly his ex-girlfriend being a bitch). How many DUIs have there been throughout the league, drug charges, battery charges, etc. But now we have to hold one guy who probably more than anyone else actually served his time, why? Because dogs were involved.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm just trying to find the parameters of protest because it may be very likely that we'll have to boycott the vast majority of the NFL. But in the end, I think some people have their panties in a knot over some doggies and because of that will act in a way they normally wouldn't towards football players which get in trouble with the law. Tank Johnson got in trouble for gun registration with Chicago, boycott Bears/Cowboys? Plexico shot himself in the leg and is in trouble in NY for gun charges, boycott the Giants? Well they did release him, so it makes that one easily. Ray Lewis stabbed someone, Urlacher has child support issues (though it was mostly his ex-girlfriend being a bitch). How many DUIs have there been throughout the league, drug charges, battery charges, etc. But now we have to hold one guy who probably more than anyone else actually served his time, why? Because dogs were involved.
    I personally would prefer if all pro sports leagues kicked out any one convicted of a felony for life. There is no right to play pro sports, it's a privilege, and you give up that privilege when you commit a felony would be how I would like to see it.

    Course, I think us law and order liberals make law and order conservatives look soft on crime.

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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Boycotts rarely do anything, anyway. Other methods are far more effective.
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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I personally would prefer if all pro sports leagues kicked out any one convicted of a felony for life. There is no right to play pro sports, it's a privilege, and you give up that privilege when you commit a felony would be how I would like to see it.

    Course, I think us law and order liberals make law and order conservatives look soft on crime.
    Then the NBA is ****ed.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Would You Boycott Phill Eagles Games After They Signed Vick?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sure.

    I don't watch football anyway.
    This make no sense, unless there is hated aboil for something else.

    I doubt if his attitude has changed.. Did he do any of my type of community service ??.
    ie -work for 5 years at an animal shelter....for little pay..

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