"We may have destroyed this country, but we got rich doing it!" --The GOP
There is a special place in hell for those who care only about themselves.
Blackdog, I didnt miss the dates. However, the bible is not an article, with updates. Its printing in 2008 makes it no more authoritative. For example, I was brought up on the King James Bible, but after some 25 years someone brings out a version in 2008 and I and every Christian is supposed to take it as the words of Christ?
Yea just like the most recent translation.
Please dude get real.
Please dont try that on us. I encourage you also to get real.
What is stealing is not defined by you. If taxation were stealing it would be against the law.When they take it by force to give to someone else it is. It is not charity at that point.
But please, dont take my word for it. Just try and sue the US government for stealing your taxes over the years...you could make millions back in paid taxes! I encourage you to try it.
Last edited by creation; 08-19-09 at 08:49 AM.
For example it is "you shall not murder" not "you shall not kill." Huge difference.
Literally thousands of such errors are in the KJV and other Bibles. The newest Bibles are translated from the actual Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic not the KJV.
No Lives Matter
Lets set out things more clearly;
1/ The use of 'kidnappers' does not logically exclude slave traders. As of course, one may gain slaves by kidnap. Thus the statements on such by Jesus do not take the politics out of his message.
2/ The ISV you rely on is not above criticism and thus neither I nor I fear many across the world will be taking it on as the revealed word any time soon given the ISV's interesting take on things;
ISV -.I am the true vine, and my Father is the vintner
Vintner meaning wine seller.
KJV -Much better.I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
I should also here mention the frequent Americanisms peppering the work that damage its credibility and make it likely that itll be some time before its received across the world;
they went outside and proceeded one block when the angel suddenly left him
My apologies, I didnt know I had to wait for you to say 'all' taxation before I could make the point.Please point out where I said all taxation is stealing? I said when the government takes money by force to redistribute it to others it is stealing. It is by the definition.
So those taxes you pay that do not come directly back to you are stolen?
Of course! We both know it would be a fools errand.You are kidding right?
I doubt Jesus would have much of an opinion either way, which characterizes his feelings toward most Roman policies. Christianity is mostly about transcendence. You can enjoy earthly things if you have them and don't disperse your soul into them, but you are still supposed to be fine even if you possess nothing material. Because you have the kingdom of heaven, through which eternal paradise and all things are possible.
Last edited by Morality Games; 08-19-09 at 03:36 PM.
Not that it is anyone's business but I am a Christian. I've worked for churches as a youth minister, music minister, and peer minister and I was a summer missionary during college. I am also a huge believer in the separation of church and state.
In my current job, I see so many kids who are sick but their parents can't afford to take them to the doctor. These are not lazy parents who aren't working in most cases, but even if they were sitting at home drinking beer all day, should their child be punished? What seems to happen is that the parents wait until the child is seriously sick, then they end up in the ER which they really can't afford. When they can't pay their bill who ends up paying for it? Is universal health care the best answer for this? I think so, not because I am a Christian but because I think it is the right thing to do.
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~I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who believe it.
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