View Poll Results: WWJD?

Voters
48. You may not vote on this poll
  • Support UHC

    18 37.50%
  • Support a "for profit" insurance healthcare system

    12 25.00%
  • Other - explain

    18 37.50%
Page 18 of 37 FirstFirst ... 8161718192028 ... LastLast
Results 171 to 180 of 362

Thread: Healthcare question for Christians

  1. #171
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:45 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,607

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think even Charles Manson could go to heaven as long as he accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
    Theologically, this is correct.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  2. #172
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,552

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Taxing is stealing? Hyperbole.
    In certain circumstances it is most definitely. We had a little thing called the Revolutionary war over just that.

    The only hyperbole here is your statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  3. #173
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    09-24-17 @ 04:38 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29,261

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Probably not; as has been explained before, Jesus did not concern himself with governments, but on how individuals could reach salvation through selfless acts derived from their own free will.
    And a lot of times people act collectively on their own free will like providing emergency services.

  4. #174
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,552

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think even Charles Manson could go to heaven as long as he accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
    Talk about derail, attack and fallacy!
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  5. #175
    Banned Goobieman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Seen
    03-22-15 @ 02:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    17,343

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And a lot of times people act collectively on their own free will like providing emergency services.
    In context, how does thiis mean anything?

    Specificlally, how does forcing others to provide "charity" fall under the tenets of Christianity?

  6. #176
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,420

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In terms of Christian teachings, that is excatly correct, and is exacly why your position that Christian teachings support UHC is wrong.

    Unless you can describe the error in my position, you will contine to be wrong.
    Well see that is the problem. I described what I believed was the error in your position. You described what you believe is the error in my position. Neither of us are seeing the merits in the others argument, thus we are at an impasse.

    In terms of Christian teachings, some theologians would agree with you, others would disagree. After all, most of our safety nets that came about in the first half of the 20th Century originated with the Social Gospel Christian Movement so the argument I made is not exactly controversial within Christianity.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  7. #177
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,420

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    It's taking by force. You can call it justified in some instances, but that's what it is
    Taxes in a republic are simply a fee for services. The voters either directly or indirectly place the responsibilities for certain services in the public sector, and the taxes are the fees for the public sector providing those services. One might disagree with whether or not those services belong in the public sector or the private sector, but it does not mean that the fees for them constitute theft.

    It seems that you want to live in a complete anarchy.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  8. #178
    Banned Goobieman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Seen
    03-22-15 @ 02:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    17,343

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well see that is the problem. I described what I believed was the error in your position. You described what you believe is the error in my position.
    Actually, no.
    You stated your position.
    I stated how it was wrong.
    You re-stated your position. Again and again.
    You have yet to tell me how -my- position is wrong.

  9. #179
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,420

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Actually, no.
    You stated your position.
    I stated how it was wrong.
    You re-stated your position. Again and again.
    You have yet to tell me how -my- position is wrong.
    Actually, I stated my position. You gave your opinion about how you believe its wrong. You stated your position and I stated in my opinion how I believe its wrong.

    Now unless you are being divinely inspired in your writings in this thread, you have proven nothing, you have simply given your opinion just like I did. Some people will agree with me, others with you. That's how it works when you are discussing issues of ones personal religious beliefs and personal philosophy.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  10. #180
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Last Seen
    09-24-17 @ 04:38 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    29,261

    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I stated how it was wrong.
    .
    There really is no right or wrong in a discussion like this.

Page 18 of 37 FirstFirst ... 8161718192028 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •