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Thread: Healthcare question for Christians

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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No. I am not.
    Please consider the context in which this duscussion takes place.
    Okay fine, I'll rephrase. Do you think Jesus would support emergency services via taxation like ambulances that benefit the sick and poor?

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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Well then, you shall receive the same response:

    Unless you can describe the error in my position, you will contine to be wrong.
    Your position is what it is, so is mine, it is the same as any individual opinion. What counts is the aggregate of all of those opinions at the voting booth.

    I chose to answer the question and provided scripture to back it up. With all of the talk of free will no has mentioned god's will. If god speaks through the scriptures then the bible has instructed me the reader to support Health care reform. Maybe your bible tells you a different thing, that is between you and the lord. I am done with this discussion.

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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine, I'll rephrase. Do you think Jesus would support emergency services via taxation like ambulances that benefit the sick and poor?
    Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's; render unto God what is God's.

    He wouldn't oppose it, but he wouldn't find it relevant to the status of your personal salvation. No difference here.

    I will, however, go on record as saying that I find the teachings of Christ to be perfectly compatible with a perfect communism. (And those who are learned in such matters will know that a perfect communism is entirely voluntary and does not involve a state.)
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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine, I'll rephrase. Do you think Jesus would support emergency services via taxation like ambulances that benefit the sick and poor?
    Probably not; as has been explained before, Jesus did not concern himself with governments, but on how individuals could reach salvation through selfless acts derived from their own free will.

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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by angrycarpenter View Post
    Your position is what it is, so is mine, it is the same as any individual opinion. What counts is the aggregate of all of those opinions at the voting booth.
    That's called an appeal to popularity, and is a logical fallacy.

    Unless you can describe the error in my position, you will contine to be wrong.

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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by angrycarpenter View Post
    Your position is what it is, so is mine, it is the same as any individual opinion. What counts is the aggregate of all of those opinions at the voting booth.

    I chose to answer the question and provided scripture to back it up. With all of the talk of free will no has mentioned god's will. If god speaks through the scriptures then the bible has instructed me the reader to support Health care reform. Maybe your bible tells you a different thing, that is between you and the lord. I am done with this discussion.
    And I will ask again what scripture says to support stealing from one person to give to another? That is what this amounts to. I already donate to charity, why should I be forced to donate even more? This is in no way Christian.
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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And I will ask again what scripture says to support stealing from one person to give to another? That is what this amounts to. I already donate to charity, why should I be forced to donate even more? This is in no way Christian.
    Taxing is stealing? Hyperbole.
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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by angrycarpenter View Post
    Your position is what it is, so is mine, it is the same as any individual opinion. What counts is the aggregate of all of those opinions at the voting booth.

    I chose to answer the question and provided scripture to back it up. With all of the talk of free will no has mentioned god's will. If god speaks through the scriptures then the bible has instructed me the reader to support Health care reform. Maybe your bible tells you a different thing, that is between you and the lord. I am done with this discussion.
    Your own scripture doesn't back it up, because it specifically describes leaving people be who do not want to help.
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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    It's taking by force. You can call it justified in some instances, but that's what it is

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    Re: Healthcare question for Christians

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He wouldn't oppose it, but he wouldn't find it relevant to the status of your personal salvation. No difference here.
    I think even Charles Manson could go to heaven as long as he accepts Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.

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