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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    By the way, when making polls, it is usually a good idea to have an "other" option, or an "I don't know" option. I could not vote, since for me it is situational.
    You're not going to have a choice, as to whether, or not, you choose the public plan, so there's no need for an, "other", option.

    I'm simply trying to find out how many of the bill's supporters are totally confident in the legislation to join the plan right away. We'll all be on it, sooner, or later.
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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    How could you make such an important choice without the crucial facts, namely how much it costs? I will certainly consider it compared to my current plan, but the devil is in the detail. If it offers me a $1500 deductible for $50 a month with no hidden catches, consider me sold. However, I doubt it will be that obvious. Most likely, it will simply be yet another plan to look at for comparison shopping.

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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're not going to have a choice, as to whether, or not, you choose the public plan, so there's no need for an, "other", option.

    I'm simply trying to find out how many of the bill's supporters are totally confident in the legislation to join the plan right away. We'll all be on it, sooner, or later.
    Well congrats on joining Palin. I see you wish to follow in her footsteps of being ignorant, misinformed, dishonest, and a shameful liar?

    I wonder though, do you honestly believe this is the case with a public option, meaning are you this ill informed? Or are you this shamelessly dishonest? Before you even bother to answer, go educate yourself so as to not embarrass yourself further.

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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're not going to have a choice, as to whether, or not, you choose the public plan, so there's no need for an, "other", option.

    I'm simply trying to find out how many of the bill's supporters are totally confident in the legislation to join the plan right away. We'll all be on it, sooner, or later.
    Sure there is, two examples of why have been included in this thread. depends on situations, and not sure until the bill is in a final version. Neither is covered by "yes" or "no".

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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Well congrats on joining Palin. I see you wish to follow in her footsteps of being ignorant, misinformed, dishonest, and a shameful liar?

    I wonder though, do you honestly believe this is the case with a public option, meaning are you this ill informed? Or are you this shamelessly dishonest? Before you even bother to answer, go educate yourself so as to not embarrass yourself further.
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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Sure there is, two examples of why have been included in this thread. depends on situations, and not sure until the bill is in a final version. Neither is covered by "yes" or "no".
    The bill is a yes, or no. Therefore, the poll is yes, or no. Folks who don't have insurance will be fined. You know that, yes?
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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The bill is a yes, or no. Therefore, the poll is yes, or no. Folks who don't have insurance will be fined. You know that, yes?
    I know that has nothing to do with the topic. I also know that until a final version of the bill arrives, it's impossible to say for sure what I would do, and until I know what my situation is in 2013(?) when the bill takes effect, I won't know for sure what I would do. You don't allow for either of those situations in your poll.

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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I know that has nothing to do with the topic. I also know that until a final version of the bill arrives, it's impossible to say for sure what I would do, and until I know what my situation is in 2013(?) when the bill takes effect, I won't know for sure what I would do. You don't allow for either of those situations in your poll.
    I agree with you on all these points.

    That said, I have major issues with the current bill, and hope changes are made to it before it passes (if it does at all).
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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    I don't really support it in the sense that I understand it and am for it but I think it's in the government's best interest to have a populace that doesn't worry about getting sick and not being able to afford health services so I understand it's importance. However if it passed : No, I probably wouldn't switch from what I have now to what the government is offering. This plan "Obamacare" from my understanding is for people who would otherwise be screwed if we left it up to the market. I'm lucky enough to be able to afford doctors.
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    Re: Obamacare proponents

    Well, let's see.....I'm lucky enough to not be named Kennedy, so I'm going to see my an addition tax burden of 20% or more to pay for it, which will pretty much eliminate my ability to buy private insurance, which won't exist anyway...so where's my friggin' choice in the matter?

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