View Poll Results: What do you think the results are going to be in 2010

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  • Democrats gain in house and senate

    127 6.94%
  • Democrats gain in house, senate relatively unchanged

    51 2.79%
  • Republicans gain in house but not a majority, senate relatively unchanged

    512 27.99%
  • Republicans gain a majority in house, senate relatively unchanged

    1,060 57.96%
  • Status quo, no significant changes in house or senate

    79 4.32%
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Thread: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think you are off your meds.
    Then tell me. Since you think you are the friggin' know-it-all Liberal, how the hell does the GOP get back?? By compromising and selling out its Conservative principles and becoming Democrat-Lyte??


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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Then tell me. Since you think you are the friggin' know-it-all Liberal, how the hell does the GOP get back?? By compromising and selling out its Conservative principles and becoming Democrat-Lyte??
    I have talked about this a few times actually. The biggest problem with the GOP right now is the people who are talking for the GOP. Every time Rush, Coulter, Steele and Palin open their mouths, they say something either so stupid, or so inflammatory, that they turn off people. So step one would be get some actual effective party leaders.

    Secondly, stop with the over the top rhetoric. The GOP is most effective when they stick to simple, straightforward political messages. I forget who it was standing at a podium with the stimulus bill, saying that no one had read it all, and yet they had to vote on it. That was effective.

    lastly, instead of just being anti-democrat, really put forward your own proposals, and work to publicize them. When Steele is asked what the republican plan is, and he says he does not do legislation, he just makes you all look silly. When the house senator from Michigan(I forget his name) is on MSNBC talking about a health bill he was working on, and offering concrete proposals, he came off as effective.

    The problem I see with republicans as far as elections is not their stand on issues as much as their presentation.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Minor gains if lucky for Republicans.

    No chance unless Obama really screws up will Republicans gain lost ground imo.


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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble, but I see 1994 all over again!
    Hate to burst your bubble, but unless someone steps up in the Newt Gingrich role, the Republicans have a long way to go.

    Eric Cantor could quite easily fill those shoes. He's not quite the idea machine that Gingrich is, but he's smart and articulate. What he has not done (yet) is put out that succinct statement of principles that people can gravitate towards the way Gingrich did with the Contract with America.

    You can argue the extent to which the Republicans were sincere with the Contract overall, but what you cannot argue is that the Contract framed the 1994 elections more than any other issue. After seemingly endless gridlock in the Congress during George H.W. Bush's term of office, and the seeming persistence of gridlock during the early Clinton years, the Contract was a pledge to bring legislation to the floor, come hell or high water.

    The party that can frame 2010 in similar terms is going to make huge gains at the polls. This is where the Anti-Republicans are doing themselves serious damage as a governing party. They have made great sport of talking up how marginalized and irrelevant the Republican Party is, only to fall back on blaming them for not being able to pass health care reform on Dear Leader's timetable--John Kerry Syndrome apparently is contagious, with the Anti-Republicans firmly entrenched on both sides of the question of how relevant the Republican Party is in Congress. They have the votes, presumably, to govern as they desire, yet for all of the hoopla surrounding Dear Leader and a supposed feverish pace of legislation, they have moved exactly one major piece of legislation all the way through the system--American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (PL 111-5). Total number of laws enacted by Congress to date--47.

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress))

    Doing an advanced search on THOMAS for all public laws in the 110th Congress introduced in Congress through 8/11/2007 results in a count of 214.

    Congress, with an Anti-Republican Majority (same as in the 110th Congress) and an Anti-Republican President, is passing less than one fourth the legislation the last Congress worked on. With more of their own to work with, they are accomplishing less, and blaming the minority party for their ineptitude.

    Thus, the stage is set for a Republican resurgence, but only if the Republicans can make a case as a party that will move legislation through the system, as a party with the discipline and the vision to actually govern and attend the nation's business. If they can make that case, they will own the midterm elections, because the Anti-Republicans have made a stellar case already that they are not such a party.

    However, there is no indication the Republicans are setting the stage to make such a case, and, until they do, their midterm gains will be modest.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post

    The problem I see with republicans as far as elections is not their stand on issues as much as their presentation.
    OMG, the ambient temperature in Hell has just dropped! I see pigs flying OMG

    Agreed. If there is one thing Rush is dead-on correct about is that the Republicans need to be uncompromising Conservatives and not have to "shift to the Left" in order to be elected. Hell, Reagan was an unashamed Conservative who easily manhandled not one, but two Liberals and handed both of them their heads in November of 1980 and 84.

    I think the basic idea that the GOP needs to embrace is this: Solid Conservatism with ideas in a way that makes it appealing to Americans!
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Hate to burst your bubble, but unless someone steps up in the Newt Gingrich role, the Republicans have a long way to go.

    Eric Cantor could quite easily fill those shoes. He's not quite the idea machine that Gingrich is, but he's smart and articulate. What he has not done (yet) is put out that succinct statement of principles that people can gravitate towards the way Gingrich did with the Contract with America.

    You can argue the extent to which the Republicans were sincere with the Contract overall, but what you cannot argue is that the Contract framed the 1994 elections more than any other issue. After seemingly endless gridlock in the Congress during George H.W. Bush's term of office, and the seeming persistence of gridlock during the early Clinton years, the Contract was a pledge to bring legislation to the floor, come hell or high water.

    The party that can frame 2010 in similar terms is going to make huge gains at the polls. This is where the Anti-Republicans are doing themselves serious damage as a governing party. They have made great sport of talking up how marginalized and irrelevant the Republican Party is, only to fall back on blaming them for not being able to pass health care reform on Dear Leader's timetable--John Kerry Syndrome apparently is contagious, with the Anti-Republicans firmly entrenched on both sides of the question of how relevant the Republican Party is in Congress. They have the votes, presumably, to govern as they desire, yet for all of the hoopla surrounding Dear Leader and a supposed feverish pace of legislation, they have moved exactly one major piece of legislation all the way through the system--American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (PL 111-5). Total number of laws enacted by Congress to date--47.

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress))

    Doing an advanced search on THOMAS for all public laws in the 110th Congress introduced in Congress through 8/11/2007 results in a count of 214.

    Congress, with an Anti-Republican Majority (same as in the 110th Congress) and an Anti-Republican President, is passing less than one fourth the legislation the last Congress worked on. With more of their own to work with, they are accomplishing less, and blaming the minority party for their ineptitude.

    Thus, the stage is set for a Republican resurgence, but only if the Republicans can make a case as a party that will move legislation through the system, as a party with the discipline and the vision to actually govern and attend the nation's business. If they can make that case, they will own the midterm elections, because the Anti-Republicans have made a stellar case already that they are not such a party.

    However, there is no indication the Republicans are setting the stage to make such a case, and, until they do, their midterm gains will be modest.
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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Nice post Celticlord. Ditch the namecalling, and it would have been great, even if I disagree with you on almost every issue.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    OMG, the ambient temperature in Hell has just dropped! I see pigs flying OMG

    Agreed. If there is one thing Rush is dead-on correct about is that the Republicans need to be uncompromising Conservatives and not have to "shift to the Left" in order to be elected. Hell, Reagan was an unashamed Conservative who easily manhandled not one, but two Liberals and handed both of them their heads iun November of 1980 and 84.

    I think the basic idea that the GOP needs to embrace is this: Solid Conservatism with ideas in a way that makes it appealing to Americans!
    I have said this before, and probably will again. I have republican friends, and I respect most republicans. I just disagree with them on the issue, but we both want a better country. I feel bad for what a loud, obnoxious few have made of the republican party.

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    I actually believe that the Democrats will lose seats in the House, but gain some in the Senate. While if the whole of the senate were up for grabs I would say otherwise, the whole of the Senate is not up for grabs. Only one third are, and they consist of a lot of retiring Republicans.

    And woah, since when has VBulletin had the ability to live update threads without forcing me to hit the refresh button?

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    Re: 2010 Midterm Election Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Nice post Celticlord. Ditch the namecalling, and it would have been great, even if I disagree with you on almost every issue.
    The problem as I see it, is that the Libs were the ones who started this catterwalling when they lost in 1994, but especially in the 2000 election. since then, all we heard were unrelenting attacks on President GW Bush 24/7. So I think, as guilty of it as I am, we do need to take a breather and reassess our priorites.


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