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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Where do you think it is most likely for there to be a mass shooting?
    Please be sure to state your reason, and any support for same.
    Mass shootings are more likely at any large gathering of people. Simple math; mass shootings happen because someone who is already off their rocker decides to take as many down with him as he can and finds a crowd of people. Has nothing to do with the second amendment on either side of the argument. It has to do with crazy people killing people.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I want to add that I think the idea that schools are more likely to have a mass shooting because the people there are unarmed is foolish. I don't think that is a significant factor in some one choosing a target for a mass shooting.
    Really.
    If the schools were known to have numerous armed guards/police officers on duty, how many of the people that shot up the various schools do you suppose would have done so anyway, rather than picking a place where they were more likely to succeed?

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Mass shootings are more likely at any large gathering of people. Simple math; mass shootings happen because someone who is already off their rocker decides to take as many down with him as he can and finds a crowd of people.
    Why then do they not happen at places where there are generally a large number of guns and people that know how to use them, and instead tend to happen at places where there are not?

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So, the likelihood that you will be engaged by defensive gun fire is not a significant factor? Okay, let’s try this…

    Two schools, identical in every conceivable way EXCEPT one has certain teachers licensed to carry weapons whereas the other does not. Which one are you going to attack?
    The one where the people I want to kill are at.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Why then do they not happen at places where there are generally a large number of guns and people that know how to use them, and instead tend to happen at places where there are not?
    There aren't a large number of mass shootings to start with. Secondly, it isn't about the guns with several of your choices; its about the access to those places. Most people, especially people mentally ill enough to go on a shooting spree, don't have unfettered access to military bases, guard posts, police stations, etc. NRA rallies don't happen every day but a school campus is always there, always teeming with human activity, and doesn't really restrict access.

    Shooting sprees aren't about the second amendment on either side of the argument. They are about mentally ill people going off their rocker and taking as many people down as they can.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The one where the people I want to kill are at.
    They're in both schools in equal proportion. Answer the question, sir.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    They're in both schools in equal proportion. Answer the question, sir.
    The one closest to home then.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The one closest to home then.
    I'll take your evasiveness as a confirmation of my point.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    There aren't a large number of mass shootings to start with.
    Not the issue.

    Secondly, it isn't about the guns with several of your choices; its about the access to those places.
    Excepting the NG base and the police station, all of them have equal access -- and, in all reality, many NG bases are pretty accessable as well.

    Shooting sprees aren't about the second amendment on either side of the argument. They are about mentally ill people going off their rocker and taking as many people down as they can.
    BUT they dont seem to happen where there are large number of people with guns. IF the function is the craziness of the shooter, then it seems the places that they occour woudl be more diverse, to the point where at least SOME of them woudl happen at the places I listed.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not the issue.
    Frequency of occurence most certainly is an issue when determining chances and likelihoods. Point stands: mass shootings are not a frequent occurrence to start with.

    Excepting the NG base and the police station, all of them have equal access -- and, in all reality, many NG bases are pretty accessable as well.
    Totally untrue. There is no unfettered access to police stations, National Guard Stations, etc. You get access to the front desk. That's it.

    BUT they dont seem to happen where there are large number of people with guns.
    They also don't seem to happen in:

    Churches
    Cemetaries
    Banks
    Hospitals
    Carnivals
    Bake sales
    Art Galleries
    Museums
    Dance Clubs
    Restaurants
    Hotels


    IF the function is the craziness of the shooter, then it seems the places that they occour woudl be more diverse, to the point where at least SOME of them woudl happen at the places I listed.
    How are you going to have a diverse sample of locales when you don't have an extensive number of occurrences? Goes back to point number 1: there aren't a lot of mass shootings to start with.

    The issue with mass shootings is not a second amendment issue to either side of the argument. It's about crazy people with guns shooting a lot of other people.

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