View Poll Results: Where is it most likely for there to be a mass shooting

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  • Police station

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  • National guard base

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  • Gun show

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  • NRA national matches

    0 0%
  • School/college campus

    27 69.23%
  • Shopping mall

    4 10.26%
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Thread: Mass shootings are more likely at...

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    A mass murderer MIGHT at some point target a gun show, but it would be to kill a certain group of emotionally-associated people. Whether they were armed or not would not deter the personality type that commits these crimes.
    Support this statement.
    Where has it been tried?

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How can you possibly know that?
    ANYONE can be a target for a kook looking to shoot a group of people -- there's no way you can argue that these people are LEAST likely to be at a gun show or rifle match.

    For you to know that, you'd have to know that the targets of these people don't frequent gun shows or shoot at th enational matches - and you;d have to know this in a specific, not general sense.
    I am not talking about a particular kook, but kooks in general. For a particular kook, you would be basically right, but for kooks in general, large masses of population are more likely to have the target.

    I would also point out that you would have to know that people did not target gun shows because of the presence of guns to actually make a correlation.

    Edit: oops, gun show, not bun show
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would also point out that you would have to know that people did not target bun shows because of the presence of guns to actually make a correlation.
    Bun shows are nice.
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Bun shows are nice.
    Oops! Thanks, I fixed it.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not talking about a particular kook, but kooks in general. For a particular kook, you would be basically right, but for kooks in general, large masses of population are more likely to have the target.
    So, you're trying to explain it away as a law of averages?

    How do you know the law of averages escludes gun shows and rifle matches from being a location of a mass hsooting? Do you know how many people frequent these places/events each year?

    I really do not understand why it is so hard fro some to simply admit that the reason mass shooting dont happen in the places I mentioned might very well be, even just in part, because the killer knows that his target(s) or somone nearby might shoot back.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So, you're trying to explain it away as a law of averages?

    How do you know the law of averages escludes gun shows and rifle matches from being a location of a mass hsooting? Do you know how many people frequent these places/events each year?

    I really do not understand why it is so hard fro some to simply admit that the reason mass shooting dont happen in the places I mentioned might very well be, even just in part, because the killer knows that his target(s) or somone nearby might shoot back.
    Because there is zero evidence of it.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because there is zero evidence of it.
    Says he who is arguing 'law of averages' without any idea just how many people go to gun shows or rifle matches.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Says he who is arguing 'law of averages' without any idea just how many people go to gun shows or rifle matches.
    I can guarantee it is much smaller than those who attend school. One is a group of almost everyone under the age of 18, and a significant portion of those over that age to 22ish, and some even beyond that. I live near MSU, which has about 40 thousand(IIRC) people on campus every day most days of the year, and that is just one school out of thousands in the state(though admittedly the largest).

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I can guarantee it is much smaller than those who attend school.
    That only means it it less likely. It doesn't explain why there have been ZERO instances.

    Anyone at any time at any place can be a target; there is a reason why the killers do not choose to engage their targets where there are also large numbers of guns.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That only means it it less likely. It doesn't explain why there have been ZERO instances.
    So you admit now that it is statistically more likely at schools than gun shows now?

    Anyone at any time at any place can be a target; there is a reason why the killers do not choose to engage their targets where there are also large numbers of guns.
    Prove it. Offer one real shred of evidence that the reason is that there are guns.

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