View Poll Results: Where is it most likely for there to be a mass shooting

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  • Police station

    0 0%
  • National guard base

    0 0%
  • Gun show

    0 0%
  • NRA national matches

    0 0%
  • School/college campus

    27 69.23%
  • Shopping mall

    4 10.26%
  • Other (specify)

    8 20.51%
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    All this poll did was make a gun nut look foolish, and did nothing to further his point. Gun nuts try to hard.
    Now you;re just being silly.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Where do you think it is most likely for there to be a mass shooting?
    Please be sure to state your reason, and any support for same.
    Looks like it happens where liberals are in charge.
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Looks like it happens where liberals are in charge.


    Columbine happened under a Republican Governor, Republican Senators, and 4 of the 6 Representatives in Congress were Republicans. In 1999, Colorado was a very conservative, Republican state.
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    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post


    Columbine happened under a Republican Governor, Republican Senators, and 4 of the 6 Representatives in Congress were Republicans. In 1999, Colorado was a very conservative, Republican state.
    Who ran the schools?
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who ran the schools?
    Liberals? Show me.

    Or, you can simply stop your partisan attacks.
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Now you;re just being silly.
    Actually, he's being accurate. This is one of the worst polls ever. Most people don't have the information to answer the question accurately, so you're relying upon public perceptions, which vary greatly from reality. Beyond that, a mass shooting is the worst place to make the case that expanded gun ownership would prevent these crimes, because most mass shooters HOPE TO BE KILLED.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Liberals? Show me.

    Or, you can simply stop your partisan attacks.
    How come no one picked NRA or gun shows?
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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, he's being accurate. This is one of the worst polls ever. Most people don't have the information to answer the question accurately, so you're relying upon public perceptions, which vary greatly from reality.
    Public perception is quite relevant when the discussion revolves around same.

    In any case, the intent of the poll was to discuss why mass shootings happen only where there are people that do not have guns. Not surprisingly, there were two sides, one that says the presence of guns has nothing to do with it, and the other that says it does.

    The side that argues the presence of guns has nothing to do with it was asked to exaplin why, if the reasons they supplied was accurate, why it was that the law of averages hasn't yet caught up to the places that do have all those people with guns. That explaination hasnt been forthcoming.

    Beyond that, a mass shooting is the worst place to make the case that expanded gun ownership would prevent these crimes, because most mass shooters HOPE TO BE KILLED.
    Sure. After they do what they set out to do.
    Is it more or less likely that they will be able to accomplish their goal in an area that has a large number of people that have guns and know how to use them?
    If it is less likely, then aren't these people going to stay away from those places that have all those people with all those guns?
    That sure seems to be how things have played out so far...

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In any case, the intent of the poll was to discuss why mass shootings happen only where there are people that do not have guns.
    But there ARE guns present in schools. I already discussed this.

    That's the problem. Mass shootings DO happen in places where people are armed. That's why the poll is logically flawed. Statistically speaking, the presence of guns does not deter mass shootings the way guns may deter more predatory/opportunistic types of crimes.

    I think it's great to argue gun rights. But we should do so without using false information or assumptions.

    Do guns deter crime? Absolutely. Do guns deter mass shootings (a very specific type of crime with a very specific, ideologically motivated perpetrator)? No. They don't.

    /discussion.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 08-13-09 at 02:57 PM.

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    Re: Mass shootings are more likely at...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How come no one picked NRA or gun shows?
    Beats me.
    Maybe because people understand that the presence of guns, even a large number of them, both in terms of raw numbers as well as per capita, is NOT a contributing factor to a mass shooting?

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