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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post

    But you are correct, there will always be criminals and terrorists...and we will never be able to stop fighting them. As we never have been able to stop fighting them, since whenever humans started existing and were capable of criminal and terroristic acts.
    I never said we shouldn't fight criminals & terrorists. My point is to not use a sledge hammer (army) to kill a fly.
    (Personally, I think terrorists fall into a different category than criminals or enemy combat troops & probably will require a pseudo military/police type SWAT unti specifically designed to fight them)
    The idea that we (U.S.) are in a WAR, giving any President permanent war powers is a very dangerous concept. Our WAR against terrorism is no different the our WAR against drugs or our WAR against poverty, etc.....A WAR in name only that should not authorize vast, Presidential War Powers!
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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I never said we shouldn't fight criminals & terrorists. My point is to not use a sledge hammer (army) to kill a fly.
    (Personally, I think terrorists fall into a different category than criminals or enemy combat troops & probably will require a pseudo military/police type SWAT unit specifically designed to fight them)
    The idea that we (U.S.) are in a WAR, giving any President permanent war powers is a very dangerous concept. Our WAR against terrorism is no different the our WAR against drugs or our WAR against poverty, etc.....A WAR in name only that should not authorize vast, Presidential War Powers!
    Well, in effect, much of the terrorist world has declared war on the USA.

    So yes, we are "at war" with terrorism.

    The other "wars" were never actually wars, they were just called that as a nice, catchy term. And they were both bad ideas, and still are.

    But a "war on terrorism" is not really something we can decide not to partake of. Terrorists would attack us dispite our decision to not make war against them, if we so chose.

    As to determining if what our methods in this "war" should be, I agree that the potential for misuse of "presidential war powers" exists.

    But that does not mean they necessarily will be misused, or that they are not necessary to combat terrorism.

    I agree that the most effective method of combating terrorism is not the conventional military. I would say that conventional forces could be used to support, or to combat large numbers of terrorists if unconventional forces drove them into a situation which conventional forces could be used in.

    But, indeed, unconventional forces are needed to combat terrorism.

    However, this is a bit off-topic, partially my fault I suppose.

    So back to the main topic.

    No, I don't agree.
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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    while the time has passed by many years, given the history of Afghanistan and its horrific terrain, I would have just ordered a few nukes into the mountainous terrain of the Taint of the World backwards ass, **** for brains no womans land country and been done with it rather than engaging in a war taht the USSR showed us can not be won. The fight by attrition. They have the advantage, and other than our drones and HUGE ****ING BOMBS, we have nothing to gain in the ****hole

    time to turn mountainous terrain into glass and move on

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    while the time has passed by many years, given the history of Afghanistan and its horrific terrain, I would have just ordered a few nukes into the mountainous terrain of the Taint of the World backwards ass, **** for brains no womans land country and been done with it rather than engaging in a war taht the USSR showed us can not be won. The fight by attrition. They have the advantage, and other than our drones and HUGE ****ING BOMBS, we have nothing to gain in the ****hole

    time to turn mountainous terrain into glass and move on
    Could be a few side-effects from this method.

    I assume you those do not bother you?

    Well, some of them bother me, so I cannot agree to your method. Although it has the merit of being the Alexander to the Gordian knot which is Afghanistan.

    But did anyone think about what the rope felt?

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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Could be a few side-effects from this method.

    I assume you those do not bother you?

    Well, some of them bother me, so I cannot agree to your method. Although it has the merit of being the Alexander to the Gordian knot which is Afghanistan.

    But did anyone think about what the rope felt?

    errrrr what ?

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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    errrrr what ?
    Read well, and learn, young padawan.

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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    So, to get back to O being a racist and setting back race relations 50 (or more) years in this country....

    Does anyone know what possible reason the eminent Eric Holder, attorney general of the United States has for not pursuing prosecution of the black panther thug threatening voters in Philadelphia. Guess he was an ACORN member, huh. If you don't think this is primafacia administration racism just substitute a white man in a white robe with a club and reevaluate your feelings. How about a president calling police stupid for detaining a publically ranting uncooperative witness at a reported crime scene. I don't think he called the police stupid for detaining Bob Dylan and confirming his identity this weekend did he. I guess the difference was that Dylan wasn't ranting and uncooperative.
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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Hate him because he's black? Isn't he gay first, black second?

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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    Hate him because he's black? Isn't he gay first, black second?
    I dunno.

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    Re: Do you believe that opposition to Obama is mostly based on his race

    Liberals, this may shock some of you, but not all of us care for continuing auto bailouts and bank bailouts, trying to expand government more into the health care industry, cash for clunkers, trying to force through a cap and trade bill that will have a far greater effect on our economy than our climate, spending hundreds of billions of dollars into an economic "stimulus" that none had time to read, or the Federal government generally and unconstitutionally taking as much power as it can. Most of us couldn't care less if he was black, but we could care less if he's one of the biggest statist politicians that this country has ever seen

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