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Thread: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Do you accept his challenge or not?
    What challenge, read what he says later.
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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What challenge, read what he says later.
    From the post that you quoted
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Regardless of what some rightwing, scare tactic, partisan hacks think, no, not in the least. Anyone who thinks so, I challenge to post the definition of a socialist society and identify how the US is identical to that.
    afaict he has not posted anything since then. So I am not sure what 'later' you are referring to.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    American accept the challenge? Never going to happen. People like to throw out the term Socialist without any understanding of it. Certain people like to say that we are turning Socialist while ignoring how many of the things they enjoy today and contribute to capitalist propserity are socialistic in nature. The highway system is one of the largest socialistic projects in US history. Do we see the anti-Socialists calling for its removal? No.

    Like it or not, functioning societies require some aspects of Socialism to function and as this thread has pointed out, things that exist to bolster the capitalistic framework aren't actually socialist.
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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    Then they're not "some aspects of socialism" either. They're depicted as such because of the fallacious conception of the mixed economy as a corruption of "pure" capitalism.

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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    No. We incorporate elements of socialism (or whatever you wish to call it), but we are adverse to it enough to make us not only uncomfortable with it, but additionally opposed to it once whatever elements we introduce show many negative consequences and reverse many of the attempts to increase socialism.
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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    No. We incorporate elements of socialism (or whatever you wish to call it), but we are adverse to it enough to make us not only uncomfortable with it, but additionally opposed to it once whatever elements we introduce show many negative consequences and reverse many of the attempts to increase socialism.
    And that popular sentiment is merely based on corruption of the textbook economic spectrum, which ranges from the "pure" laissez-faire economy to the "pure" command economy. In reality, however, identifying all increases in state influence on economic structure as shifts toward "socialism" ignores the fact that many state programs are designed and intended to sustain capitalism.

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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    No, the only thing state programs are meant to do is make people dependent on big daddy gubment!!


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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    No, the only thing state programs are meant to do is make people dependent on big daddy gubment!!
    That's a necessary facet of capitalism and will always remain such.

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    Re: Are We Now a Socialist Country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    That's a necessary facet of capitalism and will always remain such.
    Socialism breeds nothing but dependence, mediocrity, sloth and laziness. Look at the "War On Poverty", What happened is that fathers were no longer needed as providers!!!! Therefore, the innercity families were destroyed as a result!!! There's a real good Liberal feelgood program for ya!


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