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Are We Now a Socialist Country?

Are We Now a Socialist Country?

  • Yes, we are a socialist country

    Votes: 5 9.8%

  • No, we are a capitalist country

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • We have been partly socialist and capitalist for decades

    Votes: 32 62.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • Total voters
    51
Never have been, never will be.

Even Obama is fairly economically conservative by European standards.
 
I expect that interest in republican market socialism will intensify over the next half-century or so as people consider the reality that such an economic system is more closely aligned with the founders' intents than our presently existing conditions of corporate capitalism.
 
Agnapostate said:
Then they're not "some aspects of socialism" either. They're depicted as such because of the fallacious conception of the mixed economy as a corruption of "pure" capitalism.
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Which is amusing as well as pure capitalism is nothing more than anarchy. No sane person wants "pure" capitalism. No regulation, no method of recourse, no required disclosures, no restrictions on pollution, it's complete anarchy. And it quickly does not survive in that form.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Since when?
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Since always? Care to revisit 1990s Somalia? How well did that turn out?

Oh, since you decided that the military and quasi-military services necessary and proper to a stable government, the army and the police, are suddenly "socialist" services by some totally weird definition of "socialism".
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Read the definition of Socialism. They absolutely fit. Government owned, mandated and controlled for the benefit for all. You just don't like them because you'd have to admit that you do enjoy aspects of Socialism.

No, stable viable societies don't need socialism, the services I just mentioned are the tangible expression of the monopoly on violence a society gives it's government to perform it's function, the protection of the people's liberty and lives and property from rude people intending to commit harm.
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Which is merely a redefining of Socialism to pretend your beliefs are consistent.

Tell me, how are services that are owned, controlled and dictated by the government for the benefit of all not Socialist?

Socialism is the theft of freedom, property, and thought from the innocent.
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Technically that's pure capitalism.
 
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