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    Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Many of you said so, even only several months ago.

    Still think so?
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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    No, service to one's country is the highest form of patriotism. Dissent comes in a close second.

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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Many of you said so, even only several months ago.

    Still think so?
    I think that patriotism is a foolish concept to be honest.
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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    No, service to one's country is the highest form of patriotism. Dissent comes in a close second.
    Have to disagree. Without dissent, service to country is easily rendered blind obedience. For everyone, there comes a point where every person has to stop and question the wisdom of their leaders--and those who refuse to do so are not rendering any good service to anyone.

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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Dissent, no. Working to improve your country in whatever way you are able to is the highest form of patriotism.

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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Let's assassinate the President. That's dissent right? I guess Oswald and Boothe are our greatest Americans.

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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I think that patriotism is a foolish concept to be honest.
    Yet, its this foolish concept that wins wars for America. The most patriotic minded nation in the world has a track record for winning. France has a history of losing land to invaders while relying upon outsiders for salvation and they mock our patriotism. Coincidence?

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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Yet, its this foolish concept that wins wars for America. The most patriotic minded nation in the world has a track record for winning. France has a history of losing land to invaders while relying upon outsiders for salvation and they mock our patriotism. Coincidence?
    I don't think it is wise to show love or devotion for an individuals place of residence solely because they were born there no.

    I don't care what the French or anyone else does for that matter.
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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Let's assassinate the President. That's dissent right?
    Is it?

    Dissent

    • Pronunciation: \di-ˈsent\
    • Function: intransitive verb
    • Etymology: Middle English, from Latin dissentire, from dis- + sentire to feel — more at sense
    • Date: 15th century

    1 : to withhold assent
    2 : to differ in opinion
    Assassinate

    • Pronunciation: \ə-ˈsa-sə-ˌnāt\
    • Function: transitive verb
    • Inflected Form(s): as·sas·si·nat·ed; as·sas·si·nat·ing
    • Date: 1607

    1 : to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously
    2 : to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons
    Killing someone for political gain is not an expression of disagreement over one's opinions, but the outright dismissal of those opinions. That's not dissent, merely a more cold-blooded form of political chicanery.

    If there is no dissent, how can anything be made better? Improvement starts with disagreement over the status quo (as you so eloquently pointed out in the Marines v Army thread).

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    Re: Is dissent the highest form of patriotism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't think it is wise to show love or devotion for an individuals place of residence solely because they were born there no.
    How about showing love and devotion to your place of residence because you live there?

    I am glad I was born in this country, but my patriotism arises from the fact that I like living in this country.

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