View Poll Results: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americans?

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Thread: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americans?

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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    Especially help from former presidents. We do not need to add a former president to their captured Americans collection.
    Say North Korea does decide to kidnap Bill Clinton. Then what do they do? They automatically would lose ANY kind of grace they have with China and Russia. Who would stand by a country that has kidnapped a former U.S. President? We're not even talking about a state backed assassination because those are all too common. We tried to do it to Fidel in the 70-80s. Israel supposedly has had some complicity in the murders of Arab politicians. Iraq did it. Africans do it to each other every other week. A state backed assassination isn't that big of a deal as far as really dirty politics go. But a kidnapping? What would they get accomplished other then having the entire U.N. on them?

    As far as Americans traveling to hostile lands not getting any assistance. What wrong did they commit to be sent to jails and forced in hard labor? What were they doing that deserves their government, which was created to protect them in these sorts of international situations, turning a blind eye to injustices against them? Since the answers to these questions are A) None and B) Nothing. Then there is really no reason why a high level diplomat shouldn't get involved if he so deems it necessary.

    Bill Clinton regardless of what right wingers at home think of him is highly respected and seen as a popular American figure around the globe. I don't see a reason as to why he shouldn't get our assistance if the N. Koreans are willing to talk to him about releasing prisoners.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 08-11-09 at 09:30 PM.
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you ever do anything besides troll? Are you 14 years old?
    So, you're ignorant of "The Ransom of Red Chief".

    What can I say?

    Ever hear of O'Henry, or do you think it's a candy bar?

    Well, Red Chief was a spoiled little terror of a boy who a couple of tramps thought to kidnap, and they had to pay the parents to take him back.

    I figure any country that snatches that overgrown spoiled little felon of an impeached former president should have to pay us handsomely to get us to take him back.
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 08-11-09 at 10:30 PM.

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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Even when our citizens break their laws? What would you think if Mexico decided to come up and have all their citizens released from our prisons? Why all mexicans could then break our laws knowing nothing would be done to them.
    Well that would be a really interesting feat as it's not up to Mexico, it's up to the U.S. to acquiesce to Mexico's request. If our former Presidents determine that based upon the available facts that their intervention is warranted, then so be it. If the imprisoning nation gives in to the request...so much the better.

    The day our former Presidents start lobbying foreign nations to return convicted child molesters to our nation I'll probably take issue.
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should former presidents travel to unfriendly hostile countries to try to release captured Americans?

    In my opinion Americans who willingly travel to hostile countries should get no assistance. Especially help from former presidents. We do not need to add a former president to their captured Americans collection.
    I appreciate your view, but I think that Clinton provided the clout needed for this particular mission, because it played on Kim Jong Idiot's ego. He thought Clinton was honoring him with a visit, but did you see Clinton's countenance in every photo? It looked solemn, and I think purposefully so because Clinton is an actor. This time I thought it was a good thing.
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