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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Thousands of our men for one life. That seems to not place any value on the lives of our solders and marines.
    He's Bill Clinton, not some random guy. Furthermore, Kim Jong-il knows he would ultimately lose if he did something that provocative.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    Have you been to North Korea,any news article detailing exactly what their military has and how their military is trained? If there military was irrelevant then we wouldn't be in this 50 year plus armistice/standoff with North Korea. The US is not going to go to war with North Korea.
    Up until the end of the Cold War, we were at peace with North Korea because of the threat from China. From the end of the Cold War until the early part of this decade, we were at peace with North Korea mainly as a courtesy to China. Since then, we have been at peace with North Korea solely because they have nuclear weapons.

    All-out war is unlikely, but there would certainly be a military response if the North Koreans kidnapped someone as high profile as Bill Clinton, as there should be. If they're going to kidnap our negotiators, then it makes negotiating rather difficult.

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    Maybe. Do you think China only needs American to buy their goods?
    Uhh I think the American market is a little more important to them than the North Korean market. Besides, China doesn't want to lose face because of Kim Jong-il. If he did something like kidnapping an American president, China would condemn it in the strongest terms, just like every other nation.
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I thought that stupid and a waste of soldiers.
    That is your opinion. Obviously the soldiers did not think so.


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    They are not using bows and arrows.
    No they are not. But they might as well be for all the good that it will do them.



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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    North Korea will NOT kidnap Clinton, and there's no harm in his trying. He ain't gonna get squat, but there's no harm.
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    North Korea will NOT kidnap Clinton, and there's no harm in his trying. He ain't gonna get squat, but there's no harm.
    Actually he did get the journalists back.
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    North Korea will NOT kidnap Clinton, and there's no harm in his trying. He ain't gonna get squat, but there's no harm.
    He already made the trip and was successful...
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Then I should have checked myself on that one.
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So it was stupid of Clinton to go help get the release of those journalists? Who would you rather have gone to negotiate for their release? Clinton or Obama? Sometimes it takes more than just an ambassador to accomplish things.
    I didn't say it was stupid of Clinton to intercede. I implied it was over and above what the gov't should be expected to do. I think the women should feel extraordinarily lucky.

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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I didn't say it was stupid of Clinton to intercede. I implied it was over and above what the gov't should be expected to do. I think the women should feel extraordinarily lucky.
    But isn't that their job? To protect it's citizens from foreign malice? (guess malice will work...Not the word I was looking for I but I guess it will work...)
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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But isn't that their job? To protect it's citizens from foreign malice? (guess malice will work...Not the word I was looking for I but I guess it will work...)
    The women were fool hearty and Clinton, as a former POTUS, has no obligation to help them. Think of the other silly Yanks who are being held in foreign jails. No one is helping them.

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    Re: Should former presidents travel to enemy countries to try to free captured Americ

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    The women were fool hearty and Clinton, as a former POTUS, has no obligation to help them. Think of the other silly Yanks who are being held in foreign jails. No one is helping them.
    Those gals did nothing wrong. Others more than likely have. You break a law then you deserve no help. You don't then you deserve help.
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