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    What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    As the bill currently makes its way trough committee, there are 4 scenarios that could happen to this bill. Starting from the left extreme, to the status quo.

    1. Universal Health Care

    This is Obama's home run folks. Also, the worst of the worst from a conservative standpoint. The government hires, pays, and fires doctors and all medical professionals, to the exclusion of any private investment or competing businesses.

    2. National Health Insurance

    Probably the very most the democrat leadership can accomplish realistically. With or without the republicans. Even then it would be watered-down with politi-speak that would favor health insurance companies(or, at least just the big-corrupt companies).

    3. General Health Reform

    No more than your general bill that passes through congress to do...something...In the end, nothing to worry about, just your average waste of money.

    4. Dies

    Waterloo. No further explanation needed.

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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    As the bill currently makes its way trough committee, there are 4 scenarios that could happen to this bill. Starting from the left extreme, to the status quo.

    1. Universal Health Care

    This is Obama's home run folks. Also, the worst of the worst from a conservative standpoint. The government hires, pays, and fires doctors and all medical professionals, to the exclusion of any private investment or competing businesses.

    2. National Health Insurance

    Probably the very most the democrat leadership can accomplish realistically. With or without the republicans. Even then it would be watered-down with politi-speak that would favor health insurance companies(or, at least just the big-corrupt companies).

    3. General Health Reform

    No more than your general bill that passes through congress to do...something...In the end, nothing to worry about, just your average waste of money.

    4. Dies

    Waterloo. No further explanation needed.
    I'd rather have nothing than 1-3.

    Thus far government health insurance is an indefensible position to hold.
    All of their "facts" are loaded with half truths and lies.
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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'd rather have nothing than 1-3.

    Thus far government health insurance is an indefensible position to hold.
    All of their "facts" are loaded with half truths and lies.
    What lies and half truths? We need reform in a big way......

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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    In a perfect world I'd want one or two, with access to healtcare being like access to police or fire protection. I have zero faith in our government to carry out such sweeping reform, however, even if it were politically possible to pass a bill strong enough to carry out this reform. I'm assuming I'll be generally opposed to whatever gets passed in the end

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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    What lies and half truths? We need reform in a big way......
    The problem is, the reform we need is something they're unwilling to do. They want to slap a big, expensive bandage over the problem and try to ignore it, rather than actually addressing it head on.

    Until the government is willing to actually fix health care on a fundamental level, they're just wasting time and money.
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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The problem is, the reform we need is something they're unwilling to do. They want to slap a big, expensive bandage over the problem and try to ignore it, rather than actually addressing it head on.

    until the government is willing to actually fix health care on a fundamental level, they're just wasting time and money.
    who is "they"? it seems to me at least obama is willing to take this on, depsite the blue dog dems and the republicans. if people were HONEST, most would acknowledge we need reform, as you did. instead, what we have is more fear mongering and outright lies (euthanasia?) being thrown around.

    we will never get anywhere unless we actually start the car.

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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    In a perfect world I'd want one or two, with access to healtcare being like access to police or fire protection. I have zero faith in our government to carry out such sweeping reform, however, even if it were politically possible to pass a bill strong enough to carry out this reform. I'm assuming I'll be generally opposed to whatever gets passed in the end
    i'm optimistic.

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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    What lies and half truths? We need reform in a big way......
    Government health care is more efficient (Lie), Government health care is cheaper (half truth), Health care is a right (half truth), there are others but that is a start.
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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Government health care is more efficient (Lie), Government health care is cheaper (half truth), Health care is a right (half truth), there are others but that is a start.
    i believe access to decent healthcare is a right, whatever your economic status. and as for efficiency and cost, who says we can't do it right? part of the reason gov't health programs are rife with fraud is because of the hospitals as well as the doctors.

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    Re: What do you want in the Health Reform bill

    The goal being reducing healthcare costs:

    The reform I would like to see is less regulation on hospitals. I work as a laboratory technologist at a regional medical complex, and my lab alone is over regulated. We are subjected to numerous inspections and most are looking for the same thing. One inspection would do the same as several. This would not only save hospitals more money directly, it would cut their cost in other areas as well. The companies that make the supplies we use are subjected to too much regulation also. Reduce that regulation and pass the savings onto the hospitals, who in turn pass it on to patients.

    Even simple streamlining of things could help. The parts of inspections that are looking for something different then the others can be integrated into one simple inspection.

    Next, I would reduce the tax burden on hospitals and health insurers, both state and federal. If legislators are really serious about reducing health costs, and if they believe healthcare is a right, then reduce the tax burden on hospitals or even eliminate it like it is on foods.

    Next, I would reduce the bureaucracy involved in government. This would would go along with tax reduction. Save money by streamlining the government and healthcare taxes could be reduced, possibly eliminated.
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