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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    I would say maybe 10% of the time or less, thus I had to choose 0. Most of them are nut jobs though.

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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Virtually all of them are nutjobs and when the evidence proves conclusively that they're absolutely wrong, they ignore the evidence and get even more fanatical. I might go 5% of the time they might be right, but that's purely accidental that they stumbled onto something remotely resembling the truth.
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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Between 0 and 10.


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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    I would much rather you gave a range, like 0-20% or some such.

    I chose 20% because it is likely that some conspiracy theories are true, since there are so many, and most I haven't heard of...

    It is likely much less than 20%.

    As too the ones you listed, they are not conspiracy theories, except for the last 2.

    1 - Oswald didn't shoot JFK from 3 different directions
    Well, obviously, if you word it in that manner, someone would have to agree with you...unless there is a length of time involved which defies known physics.
    2 - Sun has an effect earth's temperature
    Well, duh. Why else would it get warmer in the sunlight and colder at night?
    3 - Iraq has OIL
    This is a known fact...isn't it?
    4 - Three skyscrapers is more than two planes
    If we are speaking in terms of math, then of course it is true that 3 > 2.

    If we are speaking in terms of conspiracy theories, then I have so far heard no evidence which convinces me that anything other than that which is the accepted truth (I.E., that planes ran into and damaged the WTC towers to the extent that they collapsed and damaged the area around them. Further, that this collapse caused the surrounding buildings to collapse/take major damage.)


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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How is the sun affecting the earths temperature a conspiracy?
    He's operating under the false assumption that sun-spot activity definitely has no effect on the temperature of the Earth. He is merely implying that AGW theory is iron clad and that any alternative theories constitute arguments of a "conspiracy theory" quality.

    Because everyone KNOWS that CO2 is to blame for the minuscule rise (about one point three degrees Fahrenheit) in average global temps from the late 1800's to 1998, when temps ceased rising and actually began to fall in 2002, and have been falling ever since, which just so happens to be contemporaneous with a deep solar minimum (prolonged minimal sun spot activity). Not saying that constitutes some kind of causal link but it's an intriguing coincidence nonetheless.

    Statements such as the OP's are why I've come to harbor a special contempt for AGW theory doomsayers.
    Last edited by Ethereal; 08-06-09 at 02:54 AM.

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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    2 - Sun has an effect earth's temperature
    In the winter, the sun is out above us less and it is generally cooler.

    In the summer, the sun is out above us more and it is generally warmer.


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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    While I serious question the total collapse of the three WTC buildings, I have to rule out a government conspiracy theory because of the large number of people that would have to be willing participants.
    so basically despite all of the evidence ( which you, yourself do not deny cannot be explained by the official story ) you simply DO NOT WANT to believe that it was the government because in effect YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED THAT IT CAN NEVER BE THE GOVERNMENT because the government has too many people in it.

    now let me tell you snowflake - you are not unique. 9 out of 10 people think exactly the way you do. and you have all decided that it can never be the government.

    in effect you have given the government a blank check TO DO ANYTHING IT WANTS and get away with it.

    be proud of yourself lemmings.

    ps: you incorrectly referred to Occam's Razor. it requires the simplest theory THAT EXPLAINS *ALL* OF THE EVIDENCE which the official government story doesn't come ANYWHERE NEAR of accomplishing.

    do you know WHY we know that Hitler burned down Reichstag ? we know because Hitler is no longer in power. if Hitler won the history books would read that it was all done by polish, jews, communists or whatever ! and lemmings would explain to each other how it would have been impossible for the government to deceive everybody.

    why of course it would be impossible ! the government ONLY has close to 100% success rate in deceiving the public

    they suckered you into Vietnam, they suckered you into Iraq. can you name a single person form the Bush administration who is currently serving in prison for lying that lead to deaths of thousands of American soldiers and over a million Iraqis ? NO YOU CANT.

    in fact you can't do SH1T. go back to your high school and impress your professor there with how clever you are.
    Last edited by NEUROSPORT; 08-06-09 at 07:39 AM.

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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Quote Originally Posted by youknowwho View Post
    but this way of thinking introduces a way to conspire and get away with that.

    1) do a very complicated job which most complications included is not really necessary.

    2) destroy any evidence.

    3) invent a simple scenario which the conspiracy theory can get refuted with.

    when someone successfully found out your conspiracy, but lacks evidence, give him a ROFL and call him a nut. be sure that others will do the refuting part and will also call the person a nut, until he really goes nuts.

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    the emphasis here is A LIE BIG ENOUGH. if a lie is pesky like " i did not have sexual relations with this woman " nobody will believe it. but if we're talking about plowing two Jet Liners into WTC towers and then blowing the whole **** up right in everybodys face - thats a BIG ENOUGH lie.

    in fact there is NO WAY a lowly lemming will ever suspect foul play in this scenario.

    you don't even have to hide the evidence ( although they did ship all of the steel out ).

    this was all well known for a very long time. little kids like Joe 1991 think no way the government can be this smart to know what i will think before i think it ! its THEIR JOB to know it !

    a person ( bush ) is not smart. but THE SYSTEM as a whole is pretty damn clever. they only had MILLENIA to perfect all their scams. its their THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF RESEARCHING YOU versus yours A DECADE OF BEING BRAINWASHED BY THEM - who do you think wins this mind game ?

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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Very true, but nonetheless the larger the conspiracy, the harder it is to pull off remains a constant.
    or so it would appear to somebody who doesn't understand public psychology or the higherarchical compartmentalized organization of power structures.

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    Re: Conspiracy Theories

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    when the evidence proves conclusively that they're absolutely wrong, they ignore the evidence and get even more fanatical
    this is HUMAN NATURE. it has nothing to do with conspiracy theorists. conspiracy theorists in fact do this less than anybody else. that's because we STUDY HUMAN NATURE and learn to identify our own weaknesses and work to eliminate them to the extent possible.

    power ( think tanks etc ) also studies it. then they use human to have an ordinary man enslave himself.

    you are basically all victims of your own ignorance.
    Last edited by NEUROSPORT; 08-06-09 at 08:06 AM.

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