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    What Do You Think About Apologies?

    What do you think about apologies or saying "sorry?"

    Now, consider that the apologies I'm talking about are not necessarily from senators or presidents or leaders, but from you and me too. Are apologies things that help with growth and strengthening your confidence/dignity? Or are they last resorts that show weakness and instability in your self-esteem? Or something else?

    I knew a lot of kids my age back in high school who thought saying "sorry" was a weak move by anyone. And I still know many adults who think the same way. You always "gotta be a man" or "be strong" and "fight back" or some useless bull like that.

    Is that the case in politics? When political leaders apologize for a mistake is it a sign of weakness or a sign of strength?


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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    To me, an apology is a sign of strength of character. It shows that one's pride is not so rigid that the person refuses to admit that they erred and they can both take responsibility for their mistake and impress upon another person their regret of hurting them. An apology can make a difference.
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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    What do you think about apologies or saying "sorry?"
    I sat other, it depends on what you are apologizing for.

    If you are truly sorry(not a "I'm only sorry because I was caught and I want you or the court to give me mercy" apology) for what you did to someone then sure apologize to that person. Other words its just a bogus and meaningless apology if you are not truly sorry for wronging that individual.


    IF you are apologizing on the behalf of people who died a long time ago or people who are not sorry for their actions to a group of people who are no longer around then you are a ****ing weak willed moron who thinks that saying I'm sorry will magically make things better.

    No politician has any business doing this seeing how they are our elected representatives and what ever they do they do in our name so it is we the people are really saying sorry not the politicians. Politicians apologizing to Japan for the atomic bombing have no business doing so because as stated above they doing this is really us apologizing. Anyone apologizing to Japan for us dropping atomic bombs on them is basically saying "**** you, you should have died" to all our WWII.Politicians apologizing to native Americans,same reasons as stated above about politicians apologizing for slavery.

    I am not ashamed about anything our forefathers did, a lot of us are a product or result of the actions of our forefathers and others in past.
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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    Nothing about being weak at all.
    It shows strength to me that someone can admit their mistakes and make attempts to rectify it.

    For me, i'd respect my politicans more if they said sorry.
    Not apologising when you are in the wrong and you know it would bring that person down in my estimates


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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    What do you think about apologies or saying "sorry?"

    Now, consider that the apologies I'm talking about are not necessarily from senators or presidents or leaders, but from you and me too. Are apologies things that help with growth and strengthening your confidence/dignity? Or are they last resorts that show weakness and instability in your self-esteem? Or something else?

    I knew a lot of kids my age back in high school who thought saying "sorry" was a weak move by anyone. And I still know many adults who think the same way. You always "gotta be a man" or "be strong" and "fight back" or some useless bull like that.

    Is that the case in politics? When political leaders apologize for a mistake is it a sign of weakness or a sign of strength?
    As CC and Laila have said I think it shows a strong character.
    I'd like to see more people here suck it up and say they're sorry instead of making basement whine threads.

    (BTW, I always like your polling questions. Pretty thought provoking imo.)
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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    it works like that:

    you want some benefits but you need to screw some people over to get them. for example you need to get the OIL but you know it will leave a million innocent people dead. so what do you do ?

    you do it anyway ! then after you collect your pay check you come out into the public and apologize for making a "mistake".

    now what's worse - murdering people and then aplogizing for it ( Tony Blair ) or murdering people and not apologizing for it ( Dick Cheney )

    what would Jesus do ?

    maybe we should ask Iraqi children what they think ? ( oops they're dead ! )

    the answer is - apologize if you still want to kill more. that way you get re-elected and can continue with your business.
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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    Apologies are a sign of respect, to indicate the desire to make peace and resolve conflict between aggrieved parties. When they are accompanied by the will to make difficult changes and sincere efforts at reconciliation, they are the means by which frith is restored and confidence is built in the good intentions of the party who apologizes.

    An apology that is not marked by the desire to change and the willingness to atone, however-- and this is the vast majority of political apologies-- are a sign of weakness and hypocrisy, that the person apologizing is not strong enough to bear the consequences of their own decisions. It is begging for mercy from a party that they intend to continue to offend

    In many cases, it is a refusal or even an inability to justify one's own actions, either to the offended parties or to their own sense of propriety. An apology is offered as a substitute for moral consistency and self-examination.

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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    I think they certainly can be a sign of strength and growth but it depends on the apology and how serious one is about it. Especially in politics, lots of people are sorry... sorry they got caught, not sorry for what they did initially. The same thing is true in religion as well, you get plenty of preachers who get caught with their hands in the cookie jar who are plenty sorry because they might lose their jobs or get prosecuted for their crimes.

    Frankly, I don't believe most of the apologies that people in the public sector make because I don't think most of them are genuine. They got caught, it caused their careers potential harm, they're using an apology as a means to save political face, but in the end, they don't change their minds, they just pay lip service to it.
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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    lots of people are sorry... sorry they got caught
    yeah. wouldn't it be nice if they would come out on a random occasion and say " i am sorry for not paying taxes, stealing money from the state, accepting bribes and cheating on my wife " - you know, just out of the blue ?

    but no. they always have to wait until somebody comes up with the evidence that they did it, until its all over the news - THEN they are sorry.

    a million dollar smile one day - crying the next. what a coincidence that their conscience ALWAYS awakens the moment they get caught.

    why do we have a separate word for "apology" in this language ? we already have words "lies" and "punishment" which are sufficient.

    there is the kind of apology when you lie because you don't want to be punished. and the kind where you don't lie and ask to be punished.

    but no it wasn't enough for the liars. they invented "apology" which means you act like you are being punished while avoiding any actual punishment.

    apologies just like religion are used by liars to take advantage of the gullible.
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    Re: What Do You Think About Apologies?

    Apologies are a sign of strength--no question about that.

    I have had to work on learning to apologize. My mother, for the most part, was a very loving mother. However, if I upset her and apologized, she would say, "You're not sorry." In other words, she would reject my apology. The constant rejection of my apologies slowly caused me to develop a difficulty with apologizing. Sigh. That is one thing I will NEVER do to another person.

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