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Thread: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What was yours?
    That Roxana Mayer came in from out of state to attend Sheila Jackson Lee's town hall meeting in a show of authentic (meaning non-orchestrated) "grass roots" support, of course.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    That Roxana Mayer came in from out of state to attend Sheila Jackson Lee's town hall meeting in a show of authentic (meaning non-orchestrated) "grass roots" support, of course.
    If so, then I misread and it was my mistake.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If so, then I misread and it was my mistake.
    (I was being sarcastic)

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So Devil, since you refuse to participate in the other thread...
    One cannot help but notice how quickly he disappeared from THIS thread once it became inconvenient.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    One cannot help but notice how quickly he disappeared from THIS thread once it became inconvenient.
    I haven't gone anywhere & my position is still the same. Deception on either side is counter-productive & wrong......... but I can certainly understand why the Dems may want to retaliate using the same tactics as the right, if they did. (I haven't had time to read every post on this thread which I think is approaching the end of its useful life anyway as all opinions have been stated...re-stated & now it's just...

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I haven't gone anywhere & my position is still the same. Deception on either side is counter-productive & wrong......... but I can certainly understand why the Dems may want to retaliate using the same tactics as the right, if they did. (I haven't had time to read every post on this thread which I think is approaching the end of its useful life anyway as all opinions have been stated...re-stated & now it's just...
    Oh, of course.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I haven't gone anywhere & my position is still the same. Deception on either side is counter-productive & wrong......... but I can certainly understand why the Dems may want to retaliate using the same tactics as the right, if they did. (I haven't had time to read every post on this thread which I think is approaching the end of its useful life anyway as all opinions have been stated...re-stated & now it's just...
    Using others as an excuse to do something is a weak argument. Neither side should "stage" disruptive protests, nor ship in people for town halls, nor be dishonest about what they are doing.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What was yours?
    Well, I didn't at the time know anything about the situation, and I noted the following in the post I quoted.

    Mayer identified herself as a physician who does not live in Jackson Lee's district. However, her name does not appear in the database maintained by the Texas Medical Board, which licenses all doctors in Texas.
    So I wondered if the person in question didn't live in Texas, and was perhaps a doctor in another state.

    Is that possible?

    I have no idea how the medical boards work.

    An additional point I was trying to make was that in the spirit of the OP, such actions, if said "doctor" were from out of state, would possibly get her arrested and sent to jail.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Using others as an excuse to do something is a weak argument. Neither side should "stage" disruptive protests, nor ship in people for town halls, nor be dishonest about what they are doing.
    And yet they very likely do.

    Such actions, if discovered, could be easily presented to the public by the opposing party in a negative light. That, IMO, is punishment enough, and would be discouragement enough if people cared enough to discover such things. Which most don't.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I haven't gone anywhere & my position is still the same. Deception on either side is counter-productive & wrong......... but I can certainly understand why the Dems may want to retaliate using the same tactics as the right, if they did. (I haven't had time to read every post on this thread which I think is approaching the end of its useful life anyway as all opinions have been stated...re-stated & now it's just...
    I am of the opinion that it is precisely because your position is the same that you have reduced your level of participation in this thread.

    I believe that you have been proven wrong and incorrect in your position, and do not wish to admit it.

    If, of course, it is still your opinion that you are correct in your position, then that is something only you can change.
    I would still hope that you could see the danger involved in what you suggest, and come to have a change of opinion.
    But as this thread has 400+ responses and such as not occurred, it seems unlikely.
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