View Poll Results: Should protesters be allowed to curb free speech in this country?

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Thread: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I do understand what you are saying but don't think any state legislature will pass state laws against federal violations. (it may even violate the "Double Jeopardy" provisions of the 5th amendment. Again, I'm not a lawyer so I could well be wrong here????
    Quite possibly. I don't know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Valid point...but I still am not giving up on the idea that a very carefully drawn & implemented law could protect our rights while not damaging them. This legislation would be right on the edge & require careful watchfulness, but may still be better than doing nothing.
    (I am (by nature) a guy that doesn't like to see unnecessary government intrusion but feel the protection of our Const. rights may well be worth it. My mind is open however)
    Well, with the quality of person that political positions draw, especially in current times, there is no way that I would trust them to draw up such a law competently.

    I mean...

    Look at even the people who wrote our constitution, and it's amendments.

    Even they could not write a bill which forever and for all time prevented multiple interpretations from showing up.

    I wish to quite firmly state that I do not think it is possible.

    Thus, IMO, it is far to dangerous to try legislating so close to the danger line.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I wish to quite firmly state that I do not think it is possible.

    Thus, IMO, it is far to dangerous to try legislating so close to the danger line.
    Point understood.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Seems to ME that the chief qualification proffered forth for Obama to be President was his time as a "community organizer."

    What do "community organizers" do?

    Well, inter alia, they get people to go to community meetings and prime them with questions.

    If you think Obama never did this, you are deee-looooo-ding yourself.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    I think there's an important distinction to be made between people attending meetings to ask legitimate questions (even questions that were written by someone else)...and people attending meetings for the purpose of disrupting them and making it difficult/impossible for anyone else to ask questions or for the congressperson to answer them.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think there's an important distinction to be made between people attending meetings to ask legitimate questions (even questions that were written by someone else)...and people attending meetings for the purpose of disrupting them and making it difficult/impossible for anyone else to ask questions or for the congressperson to answer them.
    Perhaps, in some respects, assuming that's all they did. But there's very little difference between it and the Obama Action Wires sent out to get people to jam-pack the phone lines in protest on radio shows where someone critical of Obama is a guest.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Perhaps, in some respects, assuming that's all they did. But there's very little difference between it and the Obama Action Wires sent out to get people to jam-pack the phone lines in protest on radio shows where someone critical of Obama is a guest.
    Ultimately, what we are seeing is the Anti-Republicans are getting their own tactics turned against them and they've now decided such tactics are unfair. They can dish it out but they can't take it.

    Perhaps they should start calling themselves the Glass Jaw Party.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Ultimately, what we are seeing is the Anti-Republicans are getting their own tactics turned against them and they've now decided such tactics are unfair. They can dish it out but they can't take it.

    Perhaps they should start calling themselves the Glass Jaw Party.
    That is the funniest thing about this current ruling body, they accused people of using sycophants, while they use sycophants, they accuse people without solid proof of paying for protesters, after they've been proven to do so, etc.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So if a group of unruly protesters attends a town hall meeting & blasts air horns so that no speaker can be heard, that's OK because no violence was used??? (Honest answer please)
    Yes. It is their right as far as I'm concerned. Remember the 1st Amendment just guarantee's free speech. It does not guarantee for you to be heard. There is no amendment which gaurantee's it.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes. It is their right as far as I'm concerned. Remember the 1st Amendment just guarantee's free speech. It does not guarantee for you to be heard. There is no amendment which gaurantee's it.
    You have a right to your opinion...which would prevent anyone from stopping a loud street party in front of their house at 3:00am on a school night.....Totally anarchy is what you offer us.
    Sorry......I think most of us would disagree with you.

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