View Poll Results: Should protesters be allowed to curb free speech in this country?

Voters
57. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes. Protests are protected by the Constitution.

    36 63.16%
  • No. If protesters stop free speech, they should be removed by police.

    20 35.09%
  • If fake protesters & their masters should be prosecuted.

    12 21.05%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 30 of 43 FirstFirst ... 20282930313240 ... LastLast
Results 291 to 300 of 425

Thread: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

  1. #291
    Klattu Verata Nicto
    LaMidRighter's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Louisiana
    Last Seen
    07-21-17 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    30,534

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think Washington is "All Ears" (no pun intended...Sorry Mr. President!) on this subject.
    Obama's Presidency & the jobs of many elected officials rest on getting a compromise bill passed, probably by the end of this year.
    I don't see it myself, but oh well, if you want to have further debates go ahead and PM me when you start them.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

  2. #292
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 10:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't see it myself, but oh well, if you want to have further debates go ahead and PM me when you start them.
    Be glad to but I already have 2 threads going on the HC subject & don't want to push my luck!

  3. #293
    Klattu Verata Nicto
    LaMidRighter's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Louisiana
    Last Seen
    07-21-17 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    30,534

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Be glad to but I already have 2 threads going on the HC subject & don't want to push my luck!
    Fair enough, there's plenty of time here.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

  4. #294
    Professor
    Shadow Serious's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Last Seen
    07-18-14 @ 07:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    1,460

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I have seen far too much shouting down, disrespect, etc, occur at discussions and public meetings...
    People do need to learn how to speak, and how to properly conduct themselves..
    If they cannot or will not do this , then some good sealing tape across the mouth and a straight jacket are in order.
    Both political parties do this and should be ashamed of themselves.
    Frustrated, angry people are not noted for maintaining low tones. Entrenched Politicians and Politcal Hacks are not noted for listening and do not give the time for opponents or the Common People to give their point of view. I suggest that if the Politicians and the Hacks cannot address the public with respect and allow them their say, then they should have to wear those special gloves that pickpocketers have to as a reminder not to spend what is not theirs and inhale the contents of a Helium once every hour as a sign of the content of devotion to represent their constituenies and and their dedication of the General Welfare of the People.



    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I suspect that "Libertarians" would like to see health care regressed to that of 200 years ago, when the rich could have a doctor close at hand and the poor would just die...
    I say its about time we joined the rest of the civilized world and had health care for all, as a right, but limited, of course..
    I would like to see the status of health care advance to the 21st Century. All forms of government health care barely reach what would be offered in the 1950s at least in format. The government is the biggest factor in health care today in the multiple ways it interferes with with the market to limiting the options of Insurance Provision (only Cadillac Plans Allowed), failure to prohibit abuse of the Courts (Tort Reform denied), and relegating entire segments of the population to Government Mismanaged Healthcare including Veteran's, Medicare, and Indian Tribal. I do not want government Mismanaged Health Care. I want the best that i could afford and if i cannot afford i would then seek help from relatives, friends, and the general public.

    BTW 200 years ago the "poor" had better care than you imagine. Back then 1809 doctors were barely a profession the poor who could go to a doctor probably went to a young one who had more recent knowledge than the older doctors that the rich had. And even if they did not have one hand still had access to the "wise women" which did have knowlegee of herbs that in some cases were real medicines and not just something to cover symptoms. And if a doctor is still needed there is pass the hat. People take care of People.

  5. #295
    Voluntary Resignation

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    11-30-10 @ 05:20 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,059

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I don't care who wrote the laws...Congress, your state or you city.......No one has a right to disturb the peace. Any thug should goto jail for that CRIME.
    That's not even remotely the same as ...

    **** it. Never mind. You will never understand the concept.

  6. #296
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I don't care who wrote the laws...Congress, your state or you city.......No one has a right to disturb the peace. Any thug should goto jail for that CRIME.



    So the union thugs in my video should go to jail?


    yes or no?


    Ignoring this post will to me be evidence of hypocrisy.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  7. #297
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 11:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Well, after reading through all 29.5 pages of this thread (Damn that was a long read), I have my opinions to voice.

    Firstly, I voted on the poll without thinking about it enough, and chose option 1 and 3.

    I should have only chosen option 1, "Yes. Protests are protected by the Constitution."

    While I personally dislike hearing anyone yell/shout/insult other persons, that is why there is a specific amendment to the US constitution protecting it.

    You don't seriously think we would need an amendment to the constitution, that which all other laws must conform to, to protect popular speech?

    Further, even if there are groups out there (I'm sure there were, are, and will be.) who pay people to put on fake protests, such is also protected, IMO.

    Now, on to the OP argument:

    As I see it, the argument put forth in the OP was, essentially, thus:

    “Some types of that which is currently considered free speech disrupts/blocks/prevents the free speech of others. Thus, I propose that a law be created to prevent such.”

    Quote Originally Posted by First Amendment to the United States Constitution
    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
    “Congress shall make no law respecting…the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    From reading the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution"]Wikipedia article[/ame] on the 1st Amendment, I gathered further info, which I was not fully aware of before. All should read it, obviously "with a grain of salt".

    That said, I do not see any way that the law the OP suggests could possibly stand up in court as constitutional.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  8. #298
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 10:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So the union thugs in my video should go to jail?


    yes or no?


    Ignoring this post will to me be evidence of hypocrisy.
    Tell you what Rev....Not only will I ignore this trolling post but will add you as only the 2nd person I ever added to my permanent IGNORE list.

    Congrats!!!! & have a nice life

  9. #299
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 11:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,736

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Tell you what Rev....Not only will I ignore this trolling post but will add you as only the 2nd person I ever added to my permanent IGNORE list.

    Congrats!!!! & have a nice life
    I dunno...

    I personally never put someone on my ignore list (I have one?).

    IMO, if you ignore someone, you are just avoiding the questions your response to their presense/actions poses to you.

    But that's just me.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  10. #300
    Banned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Masschusetts
    Last Seen
    03-01-14 @ 10:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    3,512

    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post

    “Congress shall make no law respecting…the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and petition the government for a redress of grievances.”
    You guys just evidently can'r read the word PEACEABLY so I have made it stand out for you. (My last response on this overused & failed argument)

Page 30 of 43 FirstFirst ... 20282930313240 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •