View Poll Results: Should protesters be allowed to curb free speech in this country?

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  • Yes. Protests are protected by the Constitution.

    36 63.16%
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    He's been on his appointed rounds as a plant for the obama administration to smear American citizens. You can see how he can't even name the group behind the town hall protestors because his marching orders did not include this in its lies...


    He is an Obama Apparachik who is simply doing his duty as a democrat plant to smear American citizens who are not for Obama's socialist agenda.
    I think he just wants his free health care and he is desperate to not lose it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think he just wants his free health care and he is desperate to not lose it.


    See my new threads.... You can see this is an organized attack on other Americans and Dev is doing his part....
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I have no idea even what threads those are from, nor do I care. You attacked me chuckles, and have not commented intelligently or with facts in this thread.

    Bobby Jindal
    Here we have good old Bobby thrashing the stimulus -
    Yet on almost the same day we have little Bobby going to Anacoco, Louisiana to present a jumbo-sized check to residents of Vernon Parish
    Here is a picture for you

    And another

    Egads, he printed his own name on the check...like he is taking credit for it.

    Here he is accepting $10 million in education funds, Weatherization programs in Louisiana, and law enforcement training programs, infrastructure grants, to community service programs. All creating jobs in his home state.

    Rick Perry

    Now remember, the good Rick Perry thinks Texas is so sufficiant, he should just uns-hed the shackles of Federal Government and run free from the stimulus. Well the stimulus offered him $555 million in a Federal grant. So now the groveling hypocrite has to ask for $650 million in a loan. So do you know the difference between a grant and a loan?

    Texas asks for federal help after rejected stimulus money
    "That $555 million would that would have come with the stimulus money wouldn't have to be paid back to the federal government and that would have saved business taxpayers money for the next 20 years," said Rep. Mark Strama, D-Austin.

    Despite the loan, Gov. Perry defended his decision to those who questioned it.

    "They are shortsighted and probably criticizing for a political reason rather than a legitimate financial reason," Gov. Perry said.
    Financial reasons highlight the fact that this loan would be one of many.

    "We are expecting to need to borrow about $650 million from the federal government through October 1st, to pay for unemployment benefits", Hatchitt said.
    Really Rick? Just shortsighted political reason? Nothing to do with the fact your state now will have to pay back $650 million + interest where as you would have just received $555 million? Really Rick, can you be such a craven moronic hypocrite?

    This is what his opponent next year, Kay Hutchinson, had to say: GOP12
    “Governor Perry recklessly turned down the federal unemployment insurance money. He never even looked at cutting the ridiculous federal strings attached to that money like I would have done. He didn’t even attempt to negotiate a way to relieve employers from a tax increase while helping Texans affected by the economic downturn.”
    What about Senator Kyl?

    The good Senator said the stimulus package “hasn’t helped yet", and "What I proposed is, after you complete the contracts that are already committed, the things that are in the pipeline, stop it."

    So Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood writes to Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
    The stimulus has been very effective in creating job opportunities throughout the country. However, if you prefer to forfeit the money we are making available to your state, as Senator Kyl suggests, please let me know.
    To which the good Gov. responds:
    “To forgo these funds at this time would be a disservice to Arizona taxpayers who have remitted their federal taxes in good faith and have seen many of those hard-earned dollars expended for the benefit of residents of other states,” the governor wrote. “Our citizens need their fair share of those funds returned home to provide for their families during these hours of our greatest need.“
    Well ok, Kyl is not so much a hypocrite as he is a moron who obviously does not care about the best interests of his state. Gov. Brewer on the other hand seems to be living in reality at least.

    But wait, is there more?

    What about Rep. Kingston?
    Yes the same Rep. Kingston who proudly is taking credit for stimulus money:


    But wait, here he is slamming the same stimulus?
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqLvrB_t-40"]YouTube - Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) slams stimulus while taking credit for it at home[/ame]
    Mr. President, where’s the stimulus package? Where are the jobs? [...] Mr. Speaker, this is not the change the folks in Coffee County, Georgia, can use. They need jobs.
    Where Rep. Kingston? I don't know, why not look on your own freaking webpage.

    And good Reverend, good day

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    What does any of this have to do with this thread and your lack of fact posting on the topic?
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What does any of this have to do with this thread and your lack of fact posting on the topic?


    pwwwwoooooooossshhhh

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think he just wants his free health care and he is desperate to not lose it.
    Can anyone name ANY Republican Congressman or Senator who rails against a government option but who has refused to take his/her government run, "Socialized Medicine?"

    They have theirs but they just don't want us to get ours!

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    It would apply to anyone infringing on the First Amendment rights of others.
    ( the flagrancy & whether or not they are paid operatives would only come into account when a decision is being made for prosecution. Paid operatives should get the book thrown at them while legitimate protesters would probably not be prosecuted, just removed from the meeting).
    Many ordinary folks have not the resources to organize public protests. More often than not they only way that they can be heard and let others know of their dissent is through town hall meetings. What you are wanting is not about infringing on others 1st amendment rights. What you are wanting is to silence people just because they disagree. You want a town hall meeting where no one is allowed to be vocal in their disagreement. People have a right to be aholes so long as it doesn't endanger the lives of anyone. And that includes shouting down others.



    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Last time I checked, the constitution doesn't protect anyone's right to deprive others of their First Amendment rights.
    The first amendment applies to everyone equally. It does not address anything about how loud or quiet one has to be to exercise that right. It just states that you have a right to speak. It does not say anything about being heard. You need to learn to recognize the difference as you obviously have not understood it yet even though it has been told to you before in this thread.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Moneys free speech, so if lobbyists can give money to legislators, I don't see why you couldn't pay protesters.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Where does this happen? China or Canada?
    Do a simple google search and you will find more information.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    What evidence is there to support your claim that this happens and what actual evidence you have to support your claim that this happening with the protest that is the subject of the OP? If there videos of government agents paying people to do these things?
    I'm not claiming it is common or widespread (though who knows), but it does happen. Same advice as above... do a simple search.

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