View Poll Results: Should protesters be allowed to curb free speech in this country?

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  • Yes. Protests are protected by the Constitution.

    36 63.16%
  • No. If protesters stop free speech, they should be removed by police.

    20 35.09%
  • If fake protesters & their masters should be prosecuted.

    12 21.05%
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Thread: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Recommendation for you Sam:

    The good Rev does not debate, he just likes to see his ludicrous words in print.
    He's just not worth trying to discuss anything with so I will just pay no attention to him from now on.
    There are plenty of other members here that actually can debate intelligently.




    This is yet another lie on your part. I have asked you to prove your lies. I have asked you if you held moveon.org to the same standard and all you have done is dodged weaved and attacked.


    Why do you avoid actual discussion of your lies?
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    It is already illegal to disturb the peace. (do you actually read any posts before you spout off?



    If they tried to drown out the free speech of others I would.
    That's the difference here: We aren't afraid for you to hear the opposition. You guys are terrified that the obvious truth of what we are saying will get through, so you try to prevent anyhone from even hearing our words.
    You ****ed the thread up by falsely accusing a group of being fake/orchestrated, so instead of a thread about should protesters be thrown in jail for disturbing the peace and shouting down people or should protesters be allowed to deliberately try to stop the speech of others. You made this a thread about whether or not the protesters are fake. So when you say this same standard should be applied to any group who shouts down people speaking or tries intimidation tactics, it sounds fake. Especially when it is followed with more accusations of the of the group being fake. So if anyone appears to be fake it is you.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 08-06-09 at 10:25 AM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is yet another lie on your part. I have asked you to prove your lies. I have asked you if you held moveon.org to the same standard and all you have done is dodged weaved and attacked.


    Why do you avoid actual discussion of your lies?
    Sorry Rev....I just can't hear you anymore.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Sorry Rev....I just can't hear you anymore.



    There is more evidence YOU are a plant and an obama apparachik than anything you claimed.


    I asked you specific questions, and you ran with your tail between your legs.....


    Let the record reflect that you could not sustain your lies.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You ****ed the thread up by falsely accusing a group of being fake/orchestrated, so instead of a thread about should protesters be thrown in jail for disturbing the peace and shouting down people or should protesters be allowed to deliberately try to stop the speech of others. You made this a thread about whether or not the protesters are fake. So when you say this same standard should be applied to any group who shouts down people speaking or tries intimidation tactics, it sounds fake. Especially when it is followed with more accusations of the of the group being fake.
    No...I have repeatedly said this is a "What If" question. Your side has been the one attempting to derail this thread at every turn.

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You ****ed the thread up by falsely accusing a group of being fake/orchestrated, so instead of a thread about should protesters be thrown in jail for disturbing the peace and shouting down people or should protesters be allowed to deliberately try to stop the speech of others. You made this a thread about whether or not the protesters are fake. So when you say this same standard should be applied to any group who shouts down people speaking or tries intimidation tactics, it sounds fake. Especially when it is followed with more accusations of the of the group being fake. So if anyone appears to be fake it is you.



    He's been on his appointed rounds as a plant for the obama administration to smear American citizens. You can see how he can't even name the group behind the town hall protestors because his marching orders did not include this in its lies...


    He is an Obama Apparachik who is simply doing his duty as a democrat plant to smear American citizens who are not for Obama's socialist agenda.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So then you thought Gates was rightfully arrested? Good to know.


    Also please talk about how you are for the arrest and imprisonment of anti-war protestors.




    They did. They do. Why are you so quick to give these organizations a pass, yet you can't even NAME the imaginary organization that is controlling in your mind these protests at the town hall?

    Hypocrite much?






    Really?


    ProtestWarrior.com - Crashing the Protests

    ProtestWarrior.com - A.N.S.W.E.R. Infiltrated

    especially this one:


    ProtestWarrior.com - Eagle Strike


    Lets see if you can be not hypocritical.



    Note how this post was ignored. There is no doubt that Devil wants no part of an honest discussion here.
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    He's been on his appointed rounds as a plant for the obama administration to smear American citizens. You can see how he can't even name the group behind the town hall protestors because his marching orders did not include this in its lies...


    He is an Obama Apparachik who is simply doing his duty as a democrat plant to smear American citizens who are not for Obama's socialist agenda.
    Well golly, these have already been posted. Ever thought of actually reading something? Yeah, I know that may be difficult

    Still need more help good Reverend? How about this, for starters.

    Rick Perry, bastion of succession from evil Federal Government, turns down $500 million grant...now gets on knees for $650 million load....from Federal Government (know the difference between a grant and a loan Reverend?)

    Bobby Jindal, defender from stimulus monies....goes around state handing out big prop checks with his name on...guess where that money comes from.

    Senator Kyl, freedom from stimulus right? Lahood and Salazar write to Governor, nope Governor begs for stimulus money

    Rep. Kingston bashes stimulus, while putting on his own website taking credit for stimulus money.

    It has all been in the news, and posted here with all the cute little linkies you needed. You ignored them. So since you are so in love with looking back at back posts, YOU can look for my links, then bow down after and I will forgive you. Or do you really want me to post them? Or should I let you try and slink out of this hole you are digging yourself in (you do realize I am trying to set you up right?).

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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Well golly, these have already been posted. Ever thought of actually reading something? Yeah, I know that may be difficult

    Still need more help good Reverend? How about this, for starters.

    Rick Perry, bastion of succession from evil Federal Government, turns down $500 million grant...now gets on knees for $650 million load....from Federal Government (know the difference between a grant and a loan Reverend?)

    Bobby Jindal, defender from stimulus monies....goes around state handing out big prop checks with his name on...guess where that money comes from.

    Senator Kyl, freedom from stimulus right? Lahood and Salazar write to Governor, nope Governor begs for stimulus money

    Rep. Kingston bashes stimulus, while putting on his own website taking credit for stimulus money.

    It has all been in the news, and posted here with all the cute little linkies you needed. You ignored them. So since you are so in love with looking back at back posts, YOU can look for my links, then bow down after and I will forgive you. Or do you really want me to post them? Or should I let you try and slink out of this hole you are digging yourself in (you do realize I am trying to set you up right?).




    Uhm what are you on about now? You are losing all composure. You post information on three things you link to, but ignore the challenges presented to you in this thread....


    I have no idea even what threads those are from, nor do I care. You attacked me chuckles, and have not commented intelligently or with facts in this thread.


    Now is the time to stand up and deliver or go the way of irrellevancy....
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    Re: Should Orchestrated (fake) Protests Be Allowed To Hinder Free Speech?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    No...I have repeatedly said this is a "What If" question. Your side has been the one attempting to derail this thread at every turn.

    When you start off accusing or slandering a group as being fake in the OP you derailed your own thread from the start. It doesn't matter if you present it as a "what if", you are still claiming the group is fake with out any solid evidence to prove those groups are fake. The last 16 pages would have been about "yeah or no protesters should be allowed to shout down people speaking or use intimidation tactics to silence the speech of others" if you did not present this premise that the protesters were fake. Because with your accusation it looks like on the surface you want to ban people protesting "health care reform" and jail them for it.


    "Since I & many others feel that the shouting protest at many health care rallies is being orchestrated, & appears designed to prevent the American voter from hearing the other side of the issue, I ask the above poll question.
    Whether or not our suspicions (including those of press Sec Gibbs at today's briefing C-SPAN | Capitol Hill, The White House and National Politics) prove to be true, my poll question remains.

    The last option should read: If fake, (operatives proven to be merely "Posing" as concerned citizens while actually being paid money for the purpose of inhibiting free speech) protesters & their masters should be prosecuted
    ."
    Last edited by jamesrage; 08-06-09 at 10:52 AM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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