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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Unfortuately, the average black man is a lot further away from having the sort of wealth and priviledge enjoyed by Michael Jordan than the average white man.
    And the most likely paths for black men to achieve success and social prominence are still, basically, as athletes and entertainers.
    Society rewards blacks for entertaining the white folks.
    Pro-sports figures, musicians, comedians, and actors are disproportionately black.
    But stating that this means equality has been achieved is silly.
    Imagine if a white man's best shot at achieving success lay in being, say... a rock star? Or a professional artist or novelist.
    These are extreme long-shots.
    Blacks who lack the gift or the inclination to be performers need to have a full range of other avenues to success available to them, just as white folks do.
    Last edited by 1069; 07-28-09 at 11:07 PM.

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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Unfortuately, the average black man is a lot further away from having the sort of wealth and priviledge enjoyed by Michael Jordan than the average white man.
    I do not deny this at all. But now blacks can rise up and achieve the same goals. We no longer hold them back in general. Granted there will be a few cases where individuals were held back but as a whole they are equal. Its all about the individual and what they chose to do with themselves.

    It is no different then a typical white family. We all know them. A white family with many children, one child always seems to fail at life while there siblings do well. I see the same thing with black families. Those that have ambition and make the right choices get somewhere in life, those that make poor choices or lack motovation often times do not.

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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Unfortuately, the average black man is a lot further away from having the sort of wealth and priviledge enjoyed by Michael Jordan than the average white man.
    Without AA everyone has the same priviledge.

    As far as wealth goes that is earned through hard work. Not earned because of color. Well...unless it's inherited. But thats a whole nother ball of wax.
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    Without AA everyone has the same priviledge.
    If I believed that, I'd be all for the abolition of AA.
    But I don't think we're there yet.

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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And the most likely paths for black men to achieve success and social prominence are still, basically, as athletes and entertainers.
    Society rewards blacks for entertaining the white folks.
    Pro-sports figures, musicians, comedians, and actors are disproportionately black.
    But stating that this means equality has been achieved is silly.
    Imagine if a white man's best shot at achieving success lay in being, say... a rock star? Or a professional artist or novelist.
    These are extreme long-shots.
    Blacks who lack the gift or the inclination to be performers need to have a full range of other avenues to success available to them, just as white folks do.
    There's nothing stopping anyone from succeeding as an engineer, a doctor, a scientist, salesman, or a anything else except his own lack of will to succeed.

    But failure is always surrounded by lame excuses.

    The white guy that fails, all he can say is "I'm stupid".

    The minority that fails, he can say, "I isn't stupid, I's discriminated against."

    And that stops him from fixing the real problem.
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 07-28-09 at 11:21 PM.

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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And the most likely paths for black men to achieve success and social prominence are still, basically, as athletes and entertainers.
    Society rewards blacks for entertaining the white folks.
    Pro-sports figures, musicians, comedians, and actors are disproportionately black.
    But stating that this means equality has been achieved is silly.
    Imagine if a white man's best shot at achieving success lay in being, say... a rock star? Or a professional artist or novelist.
    These are extreme long-shots.
    Blacks who lack the gift or the inclination to be performers need to have a full range of other avenues to success available to them, just as white folks do.
    Sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with 99% of this.

    The part that I don't disagree with too much is the sports entertainment part. But that is because blacks are more athletic than whites are. This is actually proven fact. Blacks do have higher bone density and more muscle mass than whites do and are more often taller than whites. If you coached a football team or basketball team who would you rather pick? The biggest strongest people right? Picking blacks over whites in this case really isn't racist because of the obvious differences in size and mass.

    But as far as musicians go I could point to ALOT of white musicians. At least an equal amount of black musicians. Same goes for comedians, actors, novelists, and yes even rockstars.

    I bet that I could even point to quite alot of mundane jobs that blacks do also.
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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And the most likely paths for black men to achieve success and social prominence are still, basically, as athletes and entertainers.
    Society rewards blacks for entertaining the white folks.
    Pro-sports figures, musicians, comedians, and actors are disproportionately black.
    But stating that this means equality has been achieved is silly.
    Imagine if a white man's best shot at achieving success lay in being, say... a rock star? Or a professional artist or novelist.
    These are extreme long-shots.
    Blacks who lack the gift or the inclination to be performers need to have a full range of other avenues to success available to them, just as white folks do.
    So your for patronising black men because they need special help?
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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Give a suggestion for an option you want put into a poll. And if a mod deems it appropriate and useful lets add it in. Was stoned and forgot the "other". Sowwy. Selected for 4 options and really wanted those ones.
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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Unfortuately, the average black man is a lot further away from having the sort of wealth and priviledge enjoyed by Michael Jordan than the average white man.
    The biggest musician in America (Lil' Wayne) is black.

    Lil Wayne Notches Top-Selling Album Of '08 | Billboard.com

    The highest paid athlete in the world (Tiger Woods) is black.

    Top 10 Highest Paid Male Athletes

    The highest paid actor in Hollywood (Will Smith) is black.

    Top-Earning Hollywood Actors - WalletPop

    There are eleven black Fortune 500 CEO's.

    http://www.blackentrepreneurprofile....tune-500-ceos/

    The President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, is black.

    Institutionalized racism against blacks is just a myth. In fact, the most prominent instances of institutionalized racism are against whites. I wonder why I couldn't get one of these, for instance:

    Grants for Minorities

    The victimhood of black Americans must be exposed for the absurdly overblown melodrama that it really is. I mean what specific instances of institutionalized racism against blacks can you actually cite?
    Last edited by Ethereal; 07-29-09 at 12:04 AM.

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    Re: I'm just a white grumpy guy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I mean what specific instances of institutionalized racism against blacks can you actually cite?
    Then ask the same question only with whites instead of blacks.
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