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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The government is not inside the classroom in public schools.

    The teachers teach the kids, and the government pays the teachers. If any agenda is pushed onto the kids, it is the teachers' agenda alone.
    if i didn't know how young you are i would call you a troll.

    that's like saying that actions of a police officer have nothing to do with state and federal law.

    you know when Jordan Maxwell talks about not doing too much thinking it really does sound like he is talking about you:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EafH0rq7EF0"]YouTube - Jordan Maxwell (Education)[/ame]

    teachers tell you that you need to be disciplined to become successful. that's a lie. it's the government that needs you to be disciplined in order to stay in power. people who succeed in life are usually either school dropouts or ones who have attended private schools.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amCw5FqwjLQ"]YouTube - Education System by David Icke[/ame]

    people who teach in high schools, 90% of them are incapable of holding any other job. when their boss tells them what to teach you they comply. sure they front as if they are important or independent - but they are nothing. you won't hear your teacher say that the principal is an idiot. you won't hear your teacher say that the president is an idiot. the only thing you will ever hear is "obey ! obey ! obey ! "

    an average teacher is way too stupid to even know what his job is. his job is to turn out obedient, unquestioning sheep. but he is never told this. he is simply given guidelines on what behaviors to encourage and what behaviors to punish. he is also given explanations to use to justify his actions. teachers are dumb. they are only able to maintain illusion of having brain cells because they been teaching the same course for 20 years and you are taking it for the first time.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    you won't hear your teacher say that the president is an idiot.
    This right here is enough to disqualify everything else you said as crap (and it's mostly just crackpot conspiracy theories as it is.)

    I have heard my teachers say this so many times it is ridiculous.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't think the Government is all seeing but i do think they have the responsibility to educate the society for the betterment of a country. A educated country is much much better than a few educated who can afford it and the rest dumb as rocks
    so essentially you have the same view of the matter as i had when i was 10 years old and living in USSR.

    it also happens to be exactly the view that children are indoctrinated with in public schools ( whether in USSR or USA and apparently in UK as well ).

    i hope you're proud of yourself.

    i also hope you will never need to actually be able to form your own opinion on anything.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    I don't know about your education system but i happen to pride ours being of a higher standard than how it was under USSR tyvm

    What part of independent body do you not grasp? And schools/teachers have flexibility in what they teach.


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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    This right here is enough to disqualify everything else you said as crap (and it's mostly just crackpot conspiracy theories as it is.)

    I have heard my teachers say this so many times it is ridiculous.
    well i didn't mean it literally. i meant that there are certain things a teacher won't say. i mean your teacher won't tell you what i am telling you.

    president being an idiot was an extremely bad example on my part to use. that was very stupid of me to say. actually calling president an idiot is a very common diversion that is purposely used to obscure the reality that he is in fact a puppet.

    i wasn't careful with what i was saying.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    well i didn't mean it literally. i meant that there are certain things a teacher won't say. i mean your teacher won't tell you what i am telling you.

    president being an idiot was an extremely bad example on my part to use. that was very stupid of me to say. actually calling president an idiot is a very common diversion that is purposely used to obscure the reality that he is in fact a puppet.

    i wasn't careful with what i was saying.
    Very well, then I will trash your post bit by bit:

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    if i didn't know how young you are i would call you a troll.
    Um... why? For stating my opinions?

    that's like saying that actions of a police officer have nothing to do with state and federal law.
    Not at all. Teachers are told what to teach in general, the specifics are up to them. Police officers are given a very specific set of laws to enforce.

    you know when Jordan Maxwell talks about not doing too much thinking it really does sound like he is talking about you:
    Thanks, you're so kind.

    teachers tell you that you need to be disciplined to become successful. that's a lie. it's the government that needs you to be disciplined in order to stay in power.
    Um... what? What are you even trying to say here?

    people who succeed in life are usually either school dropouts or ones who have attended private schools.
    Not true, the amount of education, regardless of public or private schooling, is always directly correlated with success.

    people who teach in high schools, 90% of them are incapable of holding any other job.
    Source?

    when their boss tells them what to teach you they comply. sure they front as if they are important or independent - but they are nothing. you won't hear your teacher say that the principal is an idiot. you won't hear your teacher say that the president is an idiot. the only thing you will ever hear is "obey ! obey ! obey ! "
    I have never heard my teachers say "obey!". You're sounding like a loony conspiracy theorist here.

    an average teacher is way too stupid to even know what his job is. his job is to turn out obedient, unquestioning sheep. but he is never told this. he is simply given guidelines on what behaviors to encourage and what behaviors to punish. he is also given explanations to use to justify his actions. teachers are dumb. they are only able to maintain illusion of having brain cells because they been teaching the same course for 20 years and you are taking it for the first time.
    I'm starting to wonder why I even bothered responding, you're so convicted in your insanity. Please, provide examples of how teachers teach kids to be sheep.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't know about your education system but i happen to pride ours being of a higher standard than how it was under USSR tyvm
    i hope you're kidding.

    i don't know about UK but education in America is a joke compared to the education we received in USSR.

    we started physics in 5th grade. in 9th grade we were doing 7th order equations. then i came to USA and learned NOTHING in high school. then i went to a private university and on my 2nd year finally got to revisit the same kind of math i was doing 7 years ago in Kiev. the university i attended here in NY is notorious for being one of the hardest with freshman dropout rate of 70%. people tell horror stories about it here in NY yet back in USSR it would have been considered completely normal.

    in USSR if you didn't do well in school your parents would BEAT YOU until you did better. they would beat you as much as it took. in America i would sit in class with my sony minidisc player and headphones on my head and EXPLAIN THE SUBJECT TO MY TEACHER when i was bored.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    Stuff and things...

    NEUROSPORT.

    I have a question for you. What do you suggest as changes in the public school system?

    I am tempted towards the idea of no public schools whatsoever, but that would cause issues if a child's parent(s) did not have an interest in schooling their child. I suppose other measures could be taken, such as the various institutions which currently attempt to prevent child abuse.

    I personally think that it is completely possible to have a smart teacher make any subject interesting. But I do not know enough about the public school system to know if your allegations are correct (as I was home schooled).
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    NEUROSPORT.

    I have a question for you. What do you suggest as changes in the public school system?

    I am tempted towards the idea of no public schools whatsoever, but that would cause issues if a child's parent(s) did not have an interest in schooling their child.
    you mean parents would send their kid to work in McDonalds instead of school ?

    well that is probably a different issue already. Karl Marx considered family to be an institution of SLAVERY for example.

    i mean your question sounds like you're asking "how do we protect children form their parents" which i think is a separate question from education.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Please, provide examples of how teachers teach kids to be sheep.
    did you watch the David Icke video i posted ?

    what is rewarded in school is not thinking but COMPLIANCE.

    for example you are given a definition of the word "patriot" and on a test you are asked to repeat that definition.

    now what if you happen to THINK that a patriot is a stupid f*cking degenerate completely brainwashed by the state who derives sexual pleasure from mutilating children by bombing them with napalm and cluster bombs ? that is not the definition you were given so you fail the test. you are then informed that you are a failure.

    so you are a *success* when you REPEAT the information given to you and *failure* when you THINK for yourself.

    this is how education is structured and that's how it churns out sheep.

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