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Thread: Role of government in Education

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Where I live is a great example of failing education. The state govt often cuts funding to provide funds for other stuff, even when they know education is suffering.

    I can easily sum op the attitude of many people here in Texas with just three words: they don't care. The teachers feel they don't get paid enough, the dropout rate is skyrocketing, and something's gotta give. I feel like there needs to be some government intervention despite the general Texan attitude of "Lions, Tigers, Bears, Government! Oh my!" I'm not saying a complete govt takeover, but assistance is needed, definitely.

    Education is not a good, it is an investment in the future of the country, so why not provide even a little government assistance.
    I thought when Bush was running for president that he held up Texas as an example of a great educational system and what he wanted to do for the country.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    Lead is a natural resource.

    Education is a service parents should be willing to pay their own money to provide for their kids.

    Needless to say, the Constitution does not authorize federal spending on education.
    There are lots of things that parents should do but some(many) don't. If we don't spend the tax dollars on education they we will spend tax dollars supporting the uneducated in prison or on welfare.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You can certainly bend any statement into any meaning. I don't believe the federal govt is in charge of our fire stations.

    No they are not in charge of our fire stations, but they do spend monies to fund and enable them., there are numerous grants, loans, reimbursements ect. provided by the federal government that enable our fire departments.

    Same thing with our schools, the federal government is not in charge (in theory); however they do spend monies to fund them.

    I do not think politicians are capable of deciding what is in the best interest for educational operations, methodologies or curriculum, and need to stay out of trying to legislate it. Which is why I stated in my first post here "less meddling, more enabling"

    Edit: and I am not quite sure which statement you are referring to with the bending it to any meaning bit, unless you are denying that you are a resource as well
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Layla_Z View Post
    There are lots of things that parents should do but some(many) don't. If we don't spend the tax dollars on education they we will spend tax dollars supporting the uneducated in prison or on welfare.
    We typically spend many thousands of dollars on each student in the country every year. What's the limit?
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    There is nothing wrong with providing free government-sponsored education AS AN OPTION. This thread is beyond stupid.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    We typically spend many thousands of dollars on each student in the country every year. What's the limit?
    However much is necessary to do the job right.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    There is nothing wrong with providing free government-sponsored education AS AN OPTION.
    there is everything wrong with that.

    it uses taxpayer money to automatically put every honest private school at an unfair disadvantage.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    there is everything wrong with that.

    it uses taxpayer money to automatically put every honest private school at an unfair disadvantage.
    So?

    I go to a public school. I am fine with going to public schools, I like my public school, it's a good school and don't tell me I can't go to it.

    Besides, everyone needs education, especially in a democracy which requires an informed public. Vouchers are nice, but to give *everyone* a voucher just makes no sense and would have all sorts of complications. Public schools, as long as private schools exist as an alternative, are fine with me.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    So?

    I go to a public school. I am fine with going to public schools, I like my public school, it's a good school and don't tell me I can't go to it.

    Besides, everyone needs education, especially in a democracy which requires an informed public. Vouchers are nice, but to give *everyone* a voucher just makes no sense and would have all sorts of complications. Public schools, as long as private schools exist as an alternative, are fine with me.
    did you come here to babble or to debate ?

    "all sorts of complications" is not specific enough for me.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    did you come here to babble or to debate ?

    "all sorts of complications" is not specific enough for me.
    It in essence makes the cost of all private schools the same ($0 that the parents have to pay), even if their value is not the same. That is bound to have some negative consequences on free market education.

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