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    Re: Role of government in Education

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke]David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]





    In 1999, Icke wrote and published The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World, in which he identified the extraterrestrial prison warders as reptilians from the constellation Draco.[25]They walk erect and appear to be human, living not only on the planets they come from, but also in caverns and tunnels under the earth. They have cross-bred with humans, which has created "hybrids" who are "possessed" by the full-blooded reptilians.[26] The reptiles' hybrid reptilian-human DNA allows them to change from reptilian to human form if they consume human blood. Icke has drawn parallels with the 1980s science-fiction series V, in which the earth is taken over by reptiloid aliens disguised as humans.
    According to Icke, the reptilian group includes many prominent people and practically every world leader from Britain's late Queen Mother to George H.W. Bush, [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton"]Hillary Clinton[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wilson"]Harold Wilson[/ame], and Tony Blair. These people are either themselves reptilian, or work for the reptiles as what Icke calls slave-like victims of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_personality_disorder"]multiple personality disorder[/ame]: "The [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschilds"]Rothschilds[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefellers"]Rockefellers[/ame], the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_royal_family"]British royal family[/ame], and the ruling political and economic families of the U.S. and the rest of the world come from these SAME bloodlines. It is not because of snobbery, it is to hold as best they can a genetic structure the reptilian-mammalian [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA"]DNA[/ame] combination which allows them to '[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapeshifting"]shape-shift[/ame]'."[4]
    In Tales From The Time Loop and other works, Icke states that most organised religions, especially [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism"]Judaism[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity"]Christianity[/ame], and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam"]Islam[/ame], are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts. In a similar vein, Icke believes racial and ethnic divisions are an illusion promoted by the reptilians, and that racism fuels the Illuminati agenda.

    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    No they are not in charge of our fire stations, but they do spend monies to fund and enable them., there are numerous grants, loans, reimbursements ect. provided by the federal government that enable our fire departments.

    Same thing with our schools, the federal government is not in charge (in theory); however they do spend monies to fund them.

    I do not think politicians are capable of deciding what is in the best interest for educational operations, methodologies or curriculum, and need to stay out of trying to legislate it. Which is why I stated in my first post here "less meddling, more enabling"

    Edit: and I am not quite sure which statement you are referring to with the bending it to any meaning bit, unless you are denying that you are a resource as well
    Very little money, most fire dept are locally funded.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    education is a servie, not a "good".

    Also, and more importantly for the United States, the federal government isn't authorized by the Constitution to spend money on education.
    When you say this, you mean "not required to pay for education" or "must not pay for education"?
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Could you stop being hyper-partisan? It makes you look very bad....
    i am actually not partisan at all.

    conservatives are brainwashed on issues such as religion and national security. liberals brainwashed on issues such as racism and education.

    and where republicans and democrats differ in rhetoric they are still exactly the same in their actions. they both vote to fund pointless wars and they both keep growing the government and government spending.

    as a Libertarian i am equally dissatisfied with both.

    i just know that conservatives are mostly old people so i don't waste my time on them. i pick on liberals because they're mostly young and as such i can still influence them.

    ideally i want to convert people of both orientations into Libertarianism but i know conservatives just going to have to go into the grave the way they already are.

    the government focuses its mind control and propaganda on the youngest people and so do i. this is the most efficient approach. why else would i bother with high school kids like Dav ?
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    He's not being hyper-partisan so much as he's being hyper-paranoid.
    paranoia is nearly synonymous with intelligence. mine is perfectly in-line with my IQ.

    trust me i can always take xanax or drink vodka to become just like normal people - i simply don't like being stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    If so, it is the teacher's fault entirely. Why is everyone assuming teachers don't have opinions? They do, and they try to push their opinions onto their students. Not the government, the teachers.
    and where do you think teachers get their opinions from ? do they beam information from outer space ?
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    "Seeking to replace the controlling functions of the local aristocracy, the Prussian court attempted to instill social obedience in the citizens through indoctrination. Every individual had to become convinced, in the core of his being, that the King was just, his decisions always right, and the need for obedience paramount."
    the key thing to realize here is that nothing ever changes.

    its a Liberal fairy tale that there was "progress" - a lie repeated to sugar coat status quo and make you accept it.

    if there was any progress made it was sideways rather than forward.

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I am, and I find the idea as ridiculous as the government secretly blowing up two of its own buildings and blaming terrorists.
    how ironic that you would mention that! for it is precisely THE PURPOSE of "education" to ensure that the victim ( student ) will find such an idea ridiculous.

    if you knew anything about history you would know governments pull inside jobs like that ALL THE TIME. but because you are getting the GOVERNMENT'S VERSION of history ( instead of what actually happened ) you find it ridiculous.

    i mean this should not be so difficult to understand. the same people who killed kennedy are the same people who wrote your high school textbooks are the same people who pulled 9-11. that's the beauty of it - you are reading their own account of events that they themselves perpetrated.

    it's like letting a serial rapist be his own judge and jury YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR ...

    that said, let's not turn this into a 9-11 thread.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    If you're willing to check the history, you'll see that the Fed Govt got involved because of national defense reasons.

    Please feel free to make the case that technology and science aren't essential to our national defense these days.
    i have nothing against the government teaching kids technology.

    just as long as it stays out of topics like religion, philosophy and history.

    but that can never be. the government can't avoid this temptation. therefore it should not teach ( directly ) at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Icke!?!

    ICKE!?!

    Really? The guy who tells us that most of our elected leaders are non-human "reptilians'?
    Seriously?
    attack the message not the messenger.

    it is the logic of what is being said that is to be questioned not the authority of the person saying it.

    authority means nothing unless you wish to be slave.
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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    David Icke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





    In 1999, Icke wrote and published The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World, in which he identified the extraterrestrial prison warders as reptilians from the constellation Draco.[25]They walk erect and appear to be human, living not only on the planets they come from, but also in caverns and tunnels under the earth. They have cross-bred with humans, which has created "hybrids" who are "possessed" by the full-blooded reptilians.[26] The reptiles' hybrid reptilian-human DNA allows them to change from reptilian to human form if they consume human blood. Icke has drawn parallels with the 1980s science-fiction series V, in which the earth is taken over by reptiloid aliens disguised as humans.
    According to Icke, the reptilian group includes many prominent people and practically every world leader from Britain's late Queen Mother to George H.W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Harold Wilson, and Tony Blair. These people are either themselves reptilian, or work for the reptiles as what Icke calls slave-like victims of multiple personality disorder: "The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, the British royal family, and the ruling political and economic families of the U.S. and the rest of the world come from these SAME bloodlines. It is not because of snobbery, it is to hold as best they can a genetic structure the reptilian-mammalian DNA combination which allows them to 'shape-shift'."[4]
    In Tales From The Time Loop and other works, Icke states that most organised religions, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts. In a similar vein, Icke believes racial and ethnic divisions are an illusion promoted by the reptilians, and that racism fuels the Illuminati agenda.

    am I David Icke ? are you arguing me or him ?

    you probably picked up some ideas from your parents. should i run around after your parents and post on the internet every single ridiculous thing that they do ?

    grow up !

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    Re: Role of government in Education

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    attack the message not the messenger.
    it is the logic of what is being said that is to be questioned not the authority of the person saying it.
    authority means nothing unless you wish to be slave.
    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    am I David Icke ? are you arguing me or him ?
    you probably picked up some ideas from your parents. should i run around after your parents and post on the internet every single ridiculous thing that they do ?
    grow up !
    I see this is a somewhat sensitive subject for you.

    I have no idea if you are Mr. Icke or not.

    If I posted a clips of me Mum and Pop saying w/e ideas I wanted to present, then they would be fair game as well.
    However, I don't.
    I may be wrong.

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