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    So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Theres reports flying about everywhere that Obama is not an American citizen, there is no birth certificate record of him being from Hawai, and above all, that Obama has adopted the faith of his father, and is actually a muslim.

    Now, America claims to be the land of the free, and the most modernized, liberal country, so why does the media feel like its a scandal that Obama may be a Muslim, and why are so many American citizens sensitive to the issue? Why have many in the American public adopted the attitude of the media and too do believe if he is a Muslim, it is a scandal? So what if he WAS a Muslim? How would the populace react if he was an open Atheist or Agnostic? Is religion, and this backwards way of thinking, still very prevelant in the most Westernized country in the world?
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    This is going to sound bad, but i do not think US is ready for a Non Christian President.
    It took a long time for a Catholic to become President, do you remember the outrage then. I can never imagine a Atheist becoming President of the United States in my lifetime, if i remember correctly. I remember reading a while back atheists were the least trusted group in US


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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    This is going to sound bad, but i do not think US is ready for a Non Christian President.
    It took a long time for a Catholic to become President, do you remember the outrage then. I can never imagine a Atheist becoming President of the United States in my lifetime, if i remember correctly. I remember reading a while back atheists were the least trusted group in US
    Its sad isnt it, really. For all the talk about America being the best Democracy and the most liberal, and most foward thinking modern nation, we are still discriminating our votes based on religious beliefs and not ideology.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Its sad isnt it, really. For all the talk about America being the best Democracy and the most liberal, and most foward thinking modern nation, we are still discriminating our votes based on religious beliefs and not ideology.
    To be fair to US.
    I cannot imagine a black Prime Minister over here. So they got one up on us haven't they?
    I do think Europe would be first out of the two to elect a Atheist leader religion is on the decline over here whereas it is on the increase in US.
    Nick Clegg, leader of LD is an Atheist and no politican speaks about religion here.

    US is different culturally compared to us, i don't think you can be elected President without mentioning faith somewhere. Its counted as a plus, whereas over here Blair had to hide he was a secret catholic because he feared he'd be labelled a nutter if he went too religious and i remember a specific incident when Blair went to visit Bush when they were both leaders and there was a major storm that Blair had prayed with Bush.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    People who see America as a Christian nation will be outraged if a non-Christian was to lead it.

    There's also the fact that a person that follows a certain religion will always be in favor of his religion, and if he wouldn't, he's not really a follower of his religion.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    The personal faith, or lack thereof, means little to me so long as they don't pursue an agenda, based on those beliefs or pursue a course that discourages people from excercising their faith.

    It would be disconcerting if it were somehow revealed that Obama was indeed a Muslim, if only because he would have purposefully hid his faith for political gain. I have an admiration for those that are willing to stand for what they believe in, despite the costs to them personally. In this scenario, Obama would have exhibited the cowardice that I believe is unfit for a leader of men.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    I believe in judging people by their actions, and if Obama is a Muslim, it sure doesn't look to me that his actions have been compromised by it.

    Heck, Jimmy Carter is a more likely candidate for stealth Muslim in my book, since his politics are so compromised he might as well be a wholly owned subsidiary of Wahhabist incorporated.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    I don't really know what religion President Obama is, and I don't think anyone else really knows for certain either.

    As someone who prefers his government operated according to secular principles, I approve of this state of affairs.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    If America could ever accept it, a Muslim leader might even be good for foreign relations with predominantly Muslim countries in the Middle East, Asia, or Africa. Plus, I am infatuated with the Muslim religion, so basically I'd be appeased for a one or two terms.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    I don't believe Obama is a Muslim, but I have serious doubts that he is an actual Christian in anything but name and that for the sake of convenience.

    In itself this doesn't bother me excessively, as we've had a number of presidents in my lifetime who were "Christian" in name only.

    If Obama were indeed "secretly Muslim", my chief beef would be the same as WICrippler's above: that he deceptively hid it for political advantage.

    Would he have gotten elected if he had been openly Muslim? I doubt it, since we've been at war with radical Islamists for eight years.

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