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Thread: So what if Obama is Muslim?

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    You can believe your ignorant and inaccurate caricature of Mormons, that's your prerogative. Just one example of many blatant and dishonest inaccuracies in the video:

    Quote from video: "The Mormons thank God for Joseph Smith who claimed that he done more for us than any other man including Jesus Christ."

    Actual LDS quote it is based on from the D&C after Joseph and Hyrum were martyred:

    "Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it. In the short space of twenty years, he has brought forth the Book of Mormon, which he translated by the gift and power of God, and has been the means of publishing it on two continents; has sent the fullness of the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the earth; has brought forth the revelations and commandments which compose this book of Doctrine and Covenants, and many other wise documents and instructions for the benefit of the children of men; gathered many thousands of the Latter-day Saints, founded a great city, and left a fame and name that cannot be slain. He lived great, and he died great in the eyes of God and his people; and like most of the Lordís anointed in ancient times, has sealed his mission and his works with his own blood; and so has his brother Hyrum" (Doctrine and Covenants 135:3)
    Where is this "golden plate" then that he claimed to have found from upstate New York, that he apparently translated to create the Book of Mormon?
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    . . . many Americans have yet to grow up and rid themselves of their "islamophobia." . ..?
    The process would be accelerated if men neame Mohammed would stop exploding in crowds of strangers and murdering their daughters for wearing lipstick.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    The fact that the President or somebody else may be a Muslim does not matter one bit to me.

    In fact, I answered "Other" because I would much prefer to have a President that was a Muslim then I would an Athiest.

    Because Islam is still an Abrahamic Religion, which endorses doing good deeds in this life, in exchange for greater benefit in the next life.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    . One of these philosophies is accepting the beliefs of others as different but not denouncing or criticizing them without due cause.

    ?
    I think the question here isn't really so much that you denounce various philosophies without due cause, but whether or not you fail to denounce when there is plenty of cause.

    You speak of something called "Islamaphobia", but the other side of that particular coin are all those that indulge in a very determined pattern of apologia where NOTHING about Islam is ever criticized including the actions of Islamists. By adopting such a very extreme sense of moral relativism, all one shows is that they are not capable of much discernment.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Where is this "golden plate" then that he claimed to have found from upstate New York, that he apparently translated to create the Book of Mormon?
    The angel took them back.

    Yall can start a thread if you want to discuss Mormonism and I'll answer one thing at a time as I get time. The format I request-ask one question, I'll respond, and then its my turn.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't think Mormons are loony, but I would also like to know how the video was inaccurate.

    I read the Book of Mormon and it is historically very inaccurate. Things like horses were here before the 1400's and other blatant inaccuracy's. I am not even going to go into the black skin thing which I know from the video was true.

    So I would like to see where the video is wrong myself.
    See my post above. Quick response on the black skin. Nowhere is skin color taught as being connected with righteousness in anything canonical. In fact the most righteous people in the Book of Mormon were the dark skinned lamanaites that accepted the gospel. The only mention of blacks in the LDS scriptures is the following in the BOM:

    For none of these iniquities come of the Lord; for he doeth that which is good among the children of men; and he doeth nothing save it be plain unto the children of men; and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    The angel took them back.


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    Thats why we cant have a Mormon as President.


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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Yeah lets have more George W's.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    I showed you a blatant lie in your video. If you were honest you'd apologize for slandering the beliefs of a people.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by laska View Post
    I showed you a blatant lie in your video. If you were honest you'd apologize for slandering the beliefs of a people.
    Slandering is only applicable if the statements werent true. The beliefs of these people are quiet looney sort of like a mix of scientology and 9/11 truthers. I mean you have a right to your beliefs but I wouldnt want a mormon as President, that is quiet scary.
    Last edited by OxymoronP; 07-27-09 at 10:24 AM.


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