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Thread: So what if Obama is Muslim?

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Kaya, I have a question for you: Why do you ask this?

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Granted, but i dont think Christianity is either. I just think Islam is worse, sort of gets on my balls when people try to glorify Christianity against Islam when in truth they are no better.
    I think the reason why some try to say Christianity and Catholicism(no I do not consider Catholics Christians) is better than Islam is because you have to look in a history book to see their bad ****( I do not consider the crusades a bad thing), while to see some bad **** Muslims have done you can just turn on the news.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Nope. Read up on the topic. There have certainly been historical perversions, but in modern times, the writ is clear.

    Islam on the other hand, only seems to become more repressive when studied more closely and implemented faithfully.

    It's been many moons since anything approaching a mainstream Christian organization stoned, beheaded or publicly hung someone for religious offenses. Not so Islam.

    Christian women can show their face in any country where Islam does not hold sway. So can any non-Christian woman.

    In predominantly Christian countries, publication of tracts ridiculing the prevailing religious dogma is rather unlikely to get one executed, as opposed to countries under the dark influence of Sharia.

    The primary non-Jewish advocated of the Jews are Christians.

    Typically, in countries dominated by Christians, civil rights of individuals of other faiths are guaranteed.

    In Christian countries as opposed to Islamic, rapists are generally considered to be solely responsible for any shame attaching to the act of rape, and not the victim.

    One rarely finds a Christian clergyman extolling the virtues and Paradisiacal rewards of blowing ones self up ion order to kill strangers at bus stops.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Kaya, I have a question for you: Why do you ask this?
    Why not? Its a circumstance that has some controversy amongst Americans and the media, that Obama's faith is questionable and if Americans really would have a problem with his being a Muslim which i think some do.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Nope. Read up on the topic. There have certainly been historical perversions, but in modern times, the writ is clear.

    Islam on the other hand, only seems to become more repressive when studied more closely and implemented faithfully.

    It's been many moons since anything approaching a mainstream Christian organization stoned, beheaded or publicly hung someone for religious offenses. Not so Islam.

    Christian women can show their face in any country where Islam does not hold sway. So can any non-Christian woman.

    In predominantly Christian countries, publication of tracts ridiculing the prevailing religious dogma is rather unlikely to get one executed, as opposed to countries under the dark influence of Sharia.

    The primary non-Jewish advocated of the Jews are Christians.

    Typically, in countries dominated by Christians, civil rights of individuals of other faiths are guaranteed.

    In Christian countries as opposed to Islamic, rapists are generally considered to be solely responsible for any shame attaching to the act of rape, and not the victim.

    One rarely finds a Christian clergyman extolling the virtues and Paradisiacal rewards of blowing ones self up ion order to kill strangers at bus stops.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. You mostly have to go back centuries to find any substantial oppression committed "in the name of Christianity" (mostly as an excuse used by political authorities), whereas Islamic atrocities are available in the news daily.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Its sad isnt it, really. For all the talk about America being the best Democracy and the most liberal, and most foward thinking modern nation, we are still discriminating our votes based on religious beliefs and not ideology.

    The United States isn't a democracy, we're a representative republic.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    I don't think the fact that HE IS A MUSLIM is the major bone of contention. I believe that is that he has lied about that and just about everything else he's said. I'm getting tired of having to repeat this but he admitted he's a Muslim in his own words.

    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_MpYzR33Dg"]YouTube - Obama finally admits hes Muslim![/nomedia]

    Classic Freudian slip? A Freudian slip is defined as; A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal an unconscious belief, thought, or emotion. In other words the truth.
    He is using his hidden religion to rape the Nations economy with Cap & Trade and his push for Socialized medicine to include the death to Granny clause. Real Americans wouldn't pull such anti American shenanigans all based on lies, fear tactics and Hoaxes like gobal warming.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Nope. Read up on the topic. There have certainly been historical perversions, but in modern times, the writ is clear.

    Islam on the other hand, only seems to become more repressive when studied more closely and implemented faithfully.

    It's been many moons since anything approaching a mainstream Christian organization stoned, beheaded or publicly hung someone for religious offenses. Not so Islam.

    Christian women can show their face in any country where Islam does not hold sway. So can any non-Christian woman.

    In predominantly Christian countries, publication of tracts ridiculing the prevailing religious dogma is rather unlikely to get one executed, as opposed to countries under the dark influence of Sharia.

    The primary non-Jewish advocated of the Jews are Christians.

    Typically, in countries dominated by Christians, civil rights of individuals of other faiths are guaranteed.

    In Christian countries as opposed to Islamic, rapists are generally considered to be solely responsible for any shame attaching to the act of rape, and not the victim.

    One rarely finds a Christian clergyman extolling the virtues and Paradisiacal rewards of blowing ones self up ion order to kill strangers at bus stops.
    If Christianity or Judaism was just as studied and followed as faithfully, it would be no more tolerant than Islam. All 3 major religions do have perversions and intolerance within their scripture in one sense or the other.
    European history demonstrates this, christians were highly blood thirsty during the middle ages for example and the wars between the sects was prevelant as was oppression of women and that was partly because there was a fear of God and more people did follow the text closely.

    The reason why Christianity is better than Islam in a sense is because the power of it has weakened, secularism has taken root in Europe as has common sense which still has not occured in the wider Muslim world.

    To say Islam would be more bloody the more religious Muslims got is nonsense. The golden age of Arab and Islamic studies happened during a highly religious period for Muslims whilst Europe had fallen into the dark ages. There was equality for women where there wasn't none for women in the west and this was at a period where Arabic scholars studied and looked closely at Islam and followed and it was in those texts the tolerance and learning came through.

    The only reason why Islam is at this stage now is because it has turned from religion to a political movement. Political Islam is the danger.

    And yes, in the West. Christianity is all lovely and dandy but look in Africa where text is being looked at literally the same way the Qu'ran and hadiths is now by some Muslims. Intolerance is there, witch children in Africa. Christian parents killing children because they are witches, disabled children being shunned seen as a curse from God. Homosexuals too scared to show their face because it is seen as a sin. The west has been enlightened, but there are parts of this world where Christianity is implemented in the same barbaric way Islam is.

    No religion is immune from the stupidity and manipulation of human beings.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I don't think the fact that HE IS A MUSLIM is the major bone of contention. I believe that is that he has lied about that and just about everything else he's said. I'm getting tired of having to repeat this but he admitted he's a Muslim in his own words.
    Are you TRYING to get this thread moved to Conspiracy Theories?

    Unless you have a Constitutional issue to raise, or wish to take up a discussion of al-taqiyya, your words add nothing to this thread.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Clearly Biden is the
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    He used the Force to kill TOTUS.
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