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Thread: So what if Obama is Muslim?

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Sheesh.


    Look...I'm a Christian and believe with all my heart that Christianity is the only true and correct religion.

    With that said, I try very hard not to disrespect the beliefs of pagans, hindus, buddhists, Confucians, Cao Dai and so forth. While I don't believe there is any legitmacy or reality to their religion, nonetheless I recognize that it is their sincerely held belief, something that perhaps means a great deal to them, and try to treat it with appropriate respect....such as NOT calling them "loonies" for what they believe, no matter how crazy it sounds to me. I may try to convert them to Christianity, if it seems like they might be open to that possibility, but I won't denigrate them personally for believing what they believe.

    (Yeah, I make an exception for radical Islam...I'm not that utterly consistent, so sue me.)

    If I encounter a mother who is convinced her children are beautiful and brilliant, when in fact they are homely and dimwitted, I am not going to say "You're a delusional looney, your kids are ugly and stupid." It may be fact, from my perspective, but it would be very cruel to say so to her in such a blunt manner.

    A little bit more respect for other's deeply-held spiritual beliefs on DP would go a long way towards furthering civil discourse.



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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    It depends. If he is a muslim, yet approves of the political theory of secularism, and realizes like many muslims do that the Middle East is full with corrupted, extremist leaders and terrorists, and acknowledges those very people pose a threat to his country and all in it (christians, jews and muslims), then i dont think it would be dangerous for America if he was a Muslim. And even so, he isnt Christian. I dont consider people "Christians/Muslims/Jews/etc" if they are only that in theory and not practice.

    For example, in Turkey, 98% claim they are Muslims, yet less that 13% of that entire population actually practice Islam in their homes. A bit like the UK, only a small minority of all those who claim to be Anglican are actually Anglican in practice and not just say they are.
    It's the "for example" part I don't doubt... Few Turks in their right mind would claim to be anything other THAN Muslim. They'd end up dead. We're watching the Iranians trying to break free from the "Love of Allah" right now,,,and hundreds of them are being either killed, or arrested.

    The same can't be said of the Anglicans.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Look...I'm a Christian and believe with all my heart that Christianity is the only true and correct religion.
    See, that's your problem.

    Everyone knows the only true and correct religion is Pastafarianism.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    See, that's your problem.

    Everyone knows the only true and correct religion is Pastafarianism.
    I'm a true believer in the Religion of the Church of Navels. All Life begins thru the "Holy Bippy"...And you WILL BE Judged fit for Heaven only if you have an "Innie".

    All "Outies" are unclean, and going to Hell. May the "Holy Bippy" watch over you.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    such as NOT calling them "loonies" for what they believe, no matter how crazy it sounds to me.
    Yeah? So your ok with pedophiles?

    I may try to convert them to Christianity, if it seems like they might be open to that possibility, but I won't denigrate them personally for believing what they believe.
    Surely not just let them live their lives and go to hell .


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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Yeah? So your ok with pedophiles?

    Maybe you could do me the courtesy of assuming I have a little common sense and decency. If that was a joke it wasn't funny.

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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Maybe you could do me the courtesy of assuming I have a little common sense and decency. If that was a joke it wasn't funny.
    Just so you know Goshin,,,I'm not attacking you on a personal level. My perspective deals with the knowledge of the historical realities of Religion. Death, Destruction, War, Inquisitions, Holy Wars, Jihads,,,,etc. All done in the Name of God(s)...

    That "History" is still doing the same thing,,,today. I don't trust "gods". They always leave Butt-Wipes in charge.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    It's the "for example" part I don't doubt... Few Turks in their right mind would claim to be anything other THAN Muslim. They'd end up dead. We're watching the Iranians trying to break free from the "Love of Allah" right now,,,and hundreds of them are being either killed, or arrested.

    The same can't be said of the Anglicans.
    Thats untrue. When i lived in Turkey for a year i knew an English and an American family who where very catholic and attended a church near there neighbourhood set up by an Armenian priest. And ive always been a staunch opposer of Islam, but i understand your position. And welcome to DP
    I havent seen you around before.
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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Maybe you could do me the courtesy of assuming I have a little common sense and decency. If that was a joke it wasn't funny.
    Well you said no matter how loony we shouldnt judge them. I counter that with the notion that not all religions are created equal, some are more out there then others and I wouldnt want my President to follow one of the most looney religions.


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    Re: So what if Obama is Muslim?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Thats untrue. When i lived in Turkey for a year i knew an English and an American family who where very catholic and attended a church near there neighbourhood set up by an Armenian priest. And ive always been a staunch opposer of Islam, but i understand your position. And welcome to DP
    I havent seen you around before.
    There's nothing I've said pertaining to Iran, or Islam,,, is untrue. Just look at todays Headlines. Islamic Suicidal Bombers killing In Iraq...Other Sects of Islam.

    Praise Allah. Right?
    And thanks for the welcome. I've been here a week.
    Last edited by Realist1; 07-27-09 at 06:52 PM.

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